Pruitt is out at EPA

The fact that Obama sold American jobs down the river for the sake of a few votes was destined to get reversed. Pruitt was just the guy to do it. his job is done.

next time any liberal nut-bag thinks it's a good idea to place job killing regulations that do nothing to protect the environment, beware that there is a repairman in waiting. You can only do so much to keep liberals from ruining this country, it's just a shame we have to spend so much time fixing what you break.
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Unsubstantiated assertions, uncorroborated speculation, and unverified claims.

A clean and sustainable environment is the basis of a good economy. An absolute necessity for human progress and achievement.
Do you see any shitty, economically disadvantaged countries on this list?

The 20 most environmentally-friendly countries

1. Finland - EPI rating: 90.68
2. Iceland - 90.51
3. Sweden - 90.43
4. Denmark - 89.21
5. Slovenia - 88.98
6. Spain - 88.91
7. Portugal - 88.63
8. Estonia - 88.59
9. Malta - 88.48
10. France - 88.2
11. New Zealand - 88
12. United Kingdom - 87.38
13. Australia - 87.22
14. Singapore - 87.04
15. Croatia - 86.98
16. Switzerland - 86.93
17. Norway - 86.9
18. Austria - 86.64
19. Ireland - 86.6
20. Luxembourg - 86.58
The US is 26th, with 84.26. Bosnia and Herzogovina has the worst rating of any European country, placing 120th with a score of 63.28 – below the likes of Iraq, Syria, Libya and China.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...and-least-environmentally-friendly-countries/
 
Where are you getting that figure of $330 billion, it smells like bullshit to me?
Nope. Hell Tom, solid waste service industry alone is a $60 billion industry. $100 billion if you include hazardous waste. Then you have Waste Water Treatment facilities, both public and private, air pollution control systems, then you have the environmental equipment and manufacturing sector that builds these systems, then consumer products, consulting, engineering, environmental constructions, recycling, research and development, etc, etc,. So yea...$330 billion is a conservative estimate.
 
Nope. Hell Tom, solid waste service industry alone is a $60 billion industry. $100 billion if you include hazardous waste. Then you have Waste Water Treatment facilities, both public and private, air pollution control systems, then you have the environmental equipment and manufacturing sector that builds these systems, then consumer products, consulting, engineering, environmental constructions, recycling, research and development, etc, etc,. So yea...$330 billion is a conservative estimate.

I would not even bat an eye are your 330 billion estimate. Sounds eminently reasonable, doesn't even raise an eyebrow.
The scary thing? We spend more on the Pentagon than on environmental management and protection.
 
Just looking at Finland- an area the size of Wa and Oregon in land mass, and whose economic driver is technology- is 61.5% debt to GDP ratio sustainable?

It’s absolutely stupid to take small economies and compare them to the US- moronic even! But I digress, Oregon and WA combined have twice the population are run by liberal progressives, has a fairly large tech industry. Can you tell me how clean this, better comparison, is to Finland?
 
Nope. Hell Tom, solid waste service industry alone is a $60 billion industry. $100 billion if you include hazardous waste. Then you have Waste Water Treatment facilities, both public and private, air pollution control systems, then you have the environmental equipment and manufacturing sector that builds these systems, then consumer products, consulting, engineering, environmental constructions, recycling, research and development, etc, etc,. So yea...$330 billion is a conservative estimate.

You seem to be lumping a lot of disparate industries together. Garbage disposal, handling hazardous waste and water treatment are hardly new industries. There are also many avenues to be explored, Africa could be a huge export market for US coal. Clean coal technology is already being introduced in places like Germany, Korea and Japan. There is also much potential for Underground Coal Gasification especially in places like Illinois. Just because the US has turned their back on coal, for the short term at least, doesn't mean that Africa, Asia and Europe have.


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=cc48d914191a436eae19b8a62cf09038

http://www.world-nuclear.org/inform...-the-environment/clean-coal-technologies.aspx
 
I would not even bat an eye are your 330 billion estimate. Sounds eminently reasonable, doesn't even raise an eyebrow.
The scary thing? We spend more on the Pentagon than on environmental management and protection.
LOL Well they are the cause of a lot of the money spent on environmental protection each year. If military expediency is to just dump it in a hole by golly that’s what they do! LOL
 
LOL Well they are the cause of a lot of the money spent on environmental protection each year. If military expediency is to just dump it in a hole by golly that’s what they do! LOL
Yikes, not what I want to hear, I bet they have some really bad stuff.
 
Yikes, not what I want to hear, I bet they have some really bad stuff.

There are at least two "hot" spots in the STL area where radioactive materials were dumped during the Cold War. One is at Weldon Spring, the other in North STL County. The North County one is the scariest. It was buried, and later a landfill was created nearby. In 2010 the managers noticed that there was (and still is) now a subsurface fire approaching the area of the radioactive waste. It's a Superfund Site. The fire is still burning. People in the area have not been able to sell their homes and move away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Lake_Landfill

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/weldon-spring-disposal-site
 
LOL Well they are the cause of a lot of the money spent on environmental protection each year. If military expediency is to just dump it in a hole by golly that’s what they do! LOL

No doubt!

DOD is probably the single biggest polluter in the nation. At least for legacy pollution. A lot of enviro consultants made a lucrative career out of DOD pollution.

Me? I prefer tree hugging, endangered fish, and spotted owls, to working on benzene and toluene.
 
You seem to be lumping a lot of disparate industries together. Garbage disposal, handling hazardous waste and water treatment are hardly new industries. There are also many avenues to be explored, Africa could be a huge export market for US coal. Clean coal technology is already being introduced in places like Germany, Korea and Japan. There is also much potential for Underground Coal Gasification especially in places like Illinois. Just because the US has turned their back on coal, for the short term at least, doesn't mean that Africa, Asia and Europe have.


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=cc48d914191a436eae19b8a62cf09038

http://www.world-nuclear.org/inform...-the-environment/clean-coal-technologies.aspx
Yea Tom they actually are. Prior to the major environmental acts of 60’s and to a greater extent the 70’s and 80’s environmental industry and technology was little more then dumping it in a hole into the ground or the nearest body of water, river or streams or up a smoke stack. With the exponential growth of our industrial output and our population growth the problem dwarfed the what it had been prior to the war. So most of these industries and tecnologies are less than 40 years old. Which is a moot point. The coal industry is far older. The only one turning it’s back on coal in the US is the free market. So if that market develops methods and technologies to exploit new markets with out the current massive environmental degradation and pollution involved than so be it.

Which is completely beside my point. My point is the development of environmental technologies and processes which reduce waste and increase efficiencies at scalable orders of magnitudes have created far more economic growth and jobs than regressive deregulation of an industry that is becoming obsolete. This not the result of tree hugging liberals but has been determined by market forces.
 
No doubt!

DOD is probably the single biggest polluter in the nation. At least for legacy pollution. A lot of enviro consultants made a lucrative career out of DOD pollution.

Me? I prefer tree hugging, endangered fish, and spotted owls, to working on benzene and toluene.
Well you need people like me to work on managing benzene and toluene to make that possible as those are pretty darned useful chemicals. It’s not a case of one or the other. It’s a matter of understanding how they impact public health and the environment and managing them intelligently, responsibly, safely with as little waste as possible. I call that a win:win.
 
Which is completely beside my point. My point is the development of environmental technologies and processes which reduce waste and increase efficiencies at scalable orders of magnitudes have created far more economic growth and jobs than regressive deregulation of an industry that is becoming obsolete. This not the result of tree hugging liberals but has been determined by market forces.

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Outstanding analysis and post. Mr. Owl aka Mr. Capitalist absolutely agrees with you. Well said.

It's no accident that one of Twittler's first moves was to slap tariffs on solar technology. The ONLY reason was to punish and thereby diminish competition to the oil/gas/coal sector. I don't know about you, but I see this as the exact opposite of what America's brand of regulated capitalism is all about.... isn't it about competition? May the best company/brand/technology/product win?
 
Well you need people like me to work on managing benzene and toluene to make that possible as those are pretty darned useful chemicals. It’s not a case of one or the other. It’s a matter of understanding how they impact public health and the environment and managing them intelligently, responsibly, safely with as little waste as possible. I call that a win:win.

Yes, we definitely need you. BTW, my dad's career was spent as a chemist for Monsanto. He of course fully supported their products like AstroTurf and Round-Up, both of which his lab had a small part in creating. Yet he also fully supported the creation of the EPA and before that he sometimes lamented the horrors that we (and Monsanto) were doing to our environment. He told me in later years that he never regretted working for Monsanto, but he was unhappy with some of the destruction of the environment that they were behind. Most of all, he did not like their direction into bio-engineering and GMO areas. I don't know though whether this was because his passion was organic chemistry rather than bio-chem, or because he knew something he didn't want to share. I suspect though it was the former, nothing dire.
 
You seem to be lumping a lot of disparate industries together. Garbage disposal, handling hazardous waste and water treatment are hardly new industries. There are also many avenues to be explored, Africa could be a huge export market for US coal. Clean coal technology is already being introduced in places like Germany, Korea and Japan. There is also much potential for Underground Coal Gasification especially in places like Illinois. Just because the US has turned their back on coal, for the short term at least, doesn't mean that Africa, Asia and Europe have.

Exactly. Dems refuse to give clean coal a fair chance.
 
The quoted comments by the ignored shill H. Moron remind me of a Tea Party conservative friend some years ago. She works for TSA in Colorado as some sort of supervisor. One of her duties was filling out reams of paperwork, most of which she blamed on the EPA because they were material data sheets. At least she's smarter than H. Moron and quit blaming the EPA after I pointed out that those forms are OSHA's not the EPA's. They were still, of course, "government overreach." lol

A story for every occasion. :rofl2:
 

They don't seem eager to talk about that, do they, JC?

Already posted this imbroglio, and predictably, it was ignored by JP liberals.

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The NYPD used a $3 million counterterrorism plane to shuttle Mayor Bill de Blasio back and forth from his Canada vacation to the Big Apple, The Post has learned.

“NYPD is transporting him in their plane,” de Blasio spokesman Eric Phillips told The Post.

“Their plane” is a Cessna 208 Caravan that cost roughly $3 million and was picked up by the department in 2017.

The high-tech aircraft is outfitted with special sensors to detect radioactive material used to make “dirty bombs.”

The aircraft is kept at MacArthur Airport on Long Island. Data from flight-tracker website FlightAware shows a Cessna Caravan with a tail number previously identified as belonging to an NYPD “spy” craft flying from MacArthur at 6:36 a.m. Thursday and landing at Montreal-Trudeau Airport by 8:18 a.m.

The plane departed Montreal less than an hour later and landed at Westchester County Airport near White Plains at 10:58 a.m.

By noon, the mayor was speaking at a street co-naming for Familia. The plane later departed Westchester for Montreal at 1:48 p.m., arriving at 3:34 p.m., records show.

The trip to Canada was a departure from the plane’s normal pattern of two- to three-hour flights starting and ending at MacArthur, data shows.

Phillips said that Thursday was the first time the mayor had been on the plane.

Neither the NYPD nor the Mayor’s Office would say who decided to use the plane, how much the trip cost taxpayers or why the mayor didn’t take a commercial flight — which is about $300 round-trip.

The cost of using the Cessna would be in the thousands.

“The NYPD, as a longstanding matter of policy, does not comment on specific details regarding elected officials,” a spokesman said.


https://nypost.com/2018/07/05/de-blasio-used-a-3m-counterterrorism-plane-to-zip-home-from-vacation/
 
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