rather a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics

NiftyNiblick said:
This is not a debate.
Nobody seeks enlightenment here.

This is a two-way venting.

You could show Trumpanzees a video of Putin riding the Orange baboon like a mule and they'll say that it's CGI.
They will not criticize Trump because they match his moral decadence and decrepitude in every possible way.
They just don't have equal means of acting upon their depraved inclinations. They do the "best" that they can with what they've got.

The Trumpanzees aren't here for us to share discourse with them.
There here for us to either pity or ridicule, depending on our mood.
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Thing1 said:
He sided w/ Russia this morning. He sided w/ Putin over our own intel personnel.
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How did he side with Russia? It's called diplomacy. I thought you leftists preferred diplomacy to saber rattling. Now you hypocrites are demanding saber rattling.

I am surprised that YOU of all people, who declared that the intelligence agencies blew it regarding Iraq WMDs, now wants to argue that these agencies have it right with this issue and cannot be questioned. Why is that?

Thing1 said:
It really couldn't have been more blatant. That's why jaws are dropping all over America tonight - and it's not just TDS liberals.
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The only thing that was "jaw dropping" was the insane reaction we saw from the FAKE media and the Democratic Party of the Jackass. They have achieved a new low calling the President a traitor and moronically claiming he committed treason.

This is beyond mere TDS; this has entered the realm of insanity from those on the left who have lost all sense of reality, civility and common sense.
 
We were never in threat of a war with Russia -- calm it down.... if corporations don't want a war between the US and Russia, there will not be one.

Russia doesn't even have to go to war with the US in order to get what it wants
 
Thing1 said:
I actually am shocked - I had the same treatment during Iraq.

One thing I was always thought was one of the right's unwavering tenets was the idea that you never doubted America in favor of a foreign power. Especially Russia. It's been unreal today to hear not just the righties here, but talk radio & Fox trying to rationalize what Trump did this morning.

It's depressing. It all just speaks to how quickly many can abandon reason & principle for blind devotion to what is clearly a cult of personality.
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It is the height of insanity to suggest that Trumps actions were traitorous. But the same band of lunatics who used to denounce our intelligence agencies after 9-11 and the Iraq invasion, now want to declare that our intelligence agencies are flawless and MUST be believed even if it means impugning a sitting President for having the audacity to question their conclusions.

These are very pertinent questions: Where are the DNC servers? Why did the DNC NOT allow the FBI access to them? How do we know who may have hacked them when we cannot even get access to them? Why does NO ONE believe Assange who was the benefactor of the hacked e-mails and his clear unassailable statements that the Russians were not the source?

It is lunacy what we are seeing from McCain, some other never Trumpers, the FAKE media and the lunatics in the Democratic Party of the Jackass; absolute lunacy.
 
Truth Detector said:
It is the height of insanity to suggest that Trumps actions were traitorous. But the same band of lunatics who used to denounce our intelligence agencies after 9-11 and the Iraq invasion, now want to declare that our intelligence agencies are flawless and MUST be believed even if it means impugning a sitting President for having the audacity to question their conclusions.

These are very pertinent questions: Where are the DNC servers? Why did the DNC NOT allow the FBI access to them? How do we know who may have hacked them when we cannot even get access to them? Why does NO ONE believe Assange who was the benefactor of the hacked e-mails and his clear unassailable statements that the Russians were not the source?

It is lunacy what we are seeing from McCain, some other never Trumpers, the FAKE media and the lunatics in the Democratic Party of the Jackass; absolute lunacy.
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I don't know why the FBI didn't just get a warrant to seize those servers -- it is all proof the DNC conspired with Obama and Russia to hack themselves in order to hurt Trump and get Hillary elected.

The real news yesterday is when Putin said he wanted Trump to win; exactly what Hillary and Obama told him to say once the jig was up -- Putin is trying to cover for Hillary by saying he wanted Trump to win. Putin is terrified of Trump, you can see it when the two men were at the press conference -- he knows Trump would publically humiliate Putin if Putin ever crossed America.
 
Jade Dragon said:
How is a single comment of diplomacy, talking about flexibility, collusion? Trump is kissing ass man. He's going out of his way, and even out of character playing nice. He will lambast other countries at a drop of a pin, and meander every idea in to cater to Russia. It's so apparent you'd think he was trolling us. The idiot Trumpkins praise what they would have stormed the castle with pitchforks, and torches over any other time.

If people can't come to the table with reasoned discourse, where the side of the aisle doesn't matter in certain actions, they don't deserve to be there. I'd be pissed if my president choice acted like Trump, and want him gone before he compromises America, and it's interests in the world stage. It's fucking pathetic, and so is anyone with the, but their guy did this whining. We were there, we paid attention. Nothing our guy did even holds a candle. I would be beyond pissed no matter who it was. Brown nosing is an abhorrent act, for groveling little candyasses, that feel absolved by self interests being fulfilled. If I wanted a leader that crawled on it's belly disgustingly, I'd elect a tapeworm.
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I look at Trump's actions more than his words. He says provocative things to keep libs stirred up and foaming at the mouth. And it works every time. Do you really think that bolsters your side's chances of recovering political power? I say keep up the good work.

Again, the alternative would be Hillary picking Supreme Court justices. Praise be to Allah that isn't the case.
 
countryboy said:
I look at Trump's actions more than his words. He says provocative things to keep libs stirred up and foaming at the mouth. And it works every time. Do you really think that bolsters your side's chances of recovering political power? I say keep up the good work.

Again, the alternative would be Hillary picking Supreme Court justices. Praise be to Allah that isn't the case.
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No, praise be to rural America....Amen.
 
It was a great relief to hear Putin declare:

America fights communism and seeks to destroy the USSR.

That's the way it will always be!

Every since the McCarthy Hearings were declared un-American.

At least Joe McCarthy was correct when he found that Russia are committed communists.
 
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