Trump pulls out of Syria

I just knew you were going to bring that up, so lets review. Obamas decision as you call it was actually Bush's decision which took place before Obama was elected. It was Bush who set the time frame for withdrawal. Then Obama wanted to keep the troops longer, but could not negotiate the proper terms with Iraq. Please get you story straight.

Bush sent troops to Syria?.......
 
The lefties knew the invasion of Iraq would be a disaster.. and the lefties knew that the US had zero control over the Arab Spring.

don't we know now that Obama ordered the CIA to support the revolutionaries in Libya?.......weren't we also supporting the revolutionaries in Syria and Yemen?......true, we had no control over the Arab spring, but we spent a lot of resources on the Arab summer.......
 
We have had many years to secure Syria.

Bush, Obama, and now Trump have failed and have secured the terrible fate of the Kurds.

For you who disagree, look up 'zero sum' tipping point. What we have contributed and lost cannot be the reason to stay any longer: we would still fail with even greater loss. The great example is Vietnam and the American commitment after Tet.

Isis will come back, the Kurds will be massacred, the Syrians will suffer even more, and Putin and Assad will be laughing.
WTF? lol

since when were we supposed to "secure Syria".. this post is gibberish
 
In America, some evangelical Christians are among Israel’s biggest defenders because they believe it will hasten the end times foretold in the biblical Book of Revelation.

I think its sad that lib'ruls actually believe this is a conservative political agenda......but what can I say, lib'ruls have consistently proven themselves to be fucking idiots......
 
No the Russians didn't get involved until Sept 2015.

The facility was established during the Cold War in accordance with a Soviet–Syrian agreement concluded in 1971, with a view of supporting the Soviet Navy′s 5th Operational Squadron in the Mediterranean, which was meant as a counterbalance to the U.S.′ Sixth Fleet headquartered in Italy (then in Gaeta).[14]

In the early 1970s, similar support points were located in Egypt, Ethiopia (Eritrea), Vietnam and elsewhere. In 1977, the Egyptian support bases at Alexandria and Mersa Matruh were evacuated and the ships and property were transferred to Tartus, where the naval support facility was transformed into the 229th Naval and Estuary Vessel Support Division.

In 1984, the Tartus support point was upgraded to the 720th Material-Technical Support Point.[14]

In December 1991, the Soviet Union dissolved and its Mediterranean 5th Operational Squadron composed of ships from the Northern Fleet, the Baltic Fleet, and the Black Sea Fleet, ceased to exist in December 1992. Since then, there have been occasional deployments by Russian Navy ships and submarines to the Mediterranean Sea.

As Russia forgave Syria 73% of its $13.4 billion Soviet-era debt in 2005[19] and became its main arms supplier, Russia and Syria held talks about allowing Russia to develop and enlarge its naval facility, so that Russia could strengthen its naval presence in the Mediterranean.[20] Amid Russia's deteriorating relations with the West, because of the 2008 South Ossetia War and plans to deploy a US missile defense shield in Poland, an unsourced article said that President Assad reportedly agreed to the port’s conversion into a permanent Middle East base for Russia’s nuclear-armed warships.[21]

In September 2008, a second floating pier was built at the facility, following the discussion of the issue between presidents of Russia and Syria in August.[14] Meanwhile, mass media and officials of Russia, Israel, and Syria were making contradictory statements about Russian warships planning to call at Tartus as well as about the prospects of upgrading the facility to a naval base.[22]

In July 2009, the Russian military announced they would modernise the Tartus facility.[23]

During the Syrian Civil War prior to Russian intervention
See also: Syrian Civil War
Media reports in March 2012 suggested that Russian special forces had arrived at the Tartus port.[24] According to a TASS report published in December 2017, the Tartus facility has been used for supplies of Russian armaments and military cargo since June 2012.[14] Back in June 2012, Russian officials denied reports that they were reinforcing the garrison at Tartus with marines.[25] About 50 Russian sailors and specialist technicians were said to be stationed there then.[26]

In July 2012, Russian Navy commander Admiral Viktor Chirkov said that should the personnel at the facility be in danger they would be evacuated if the Russian president ordered it.[27]

On 3 August 2012, international media reported that three large Russian amphibious assault ships, carrying hundreds of Marines would soon visit Tartus. Earlier reports, quoting a source at the Russian General Staff, said the ships would spend a few days in Tartus and would take on fresh supplies of food and water. British media added that the ships each had up to 120 Marines on board. The Russian defence ministry left open the possibility that the ships might dock there at some point for logistical reasons, saying they had every right to do so. The General Staff source, who was not named, had said that after calling in at Tartus, they would head for the Bosphorus and the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk.[28][29] The ships, part of Russia's Northern Fleet, were Aleksandr Otrakovskiy, Georgiy Pobedonosets and Kondopoga, all Ropucha-class landing ships. The source, quoted by Interfax news agency, said one would anchor off Tartus and the other two would use a floating pier, because the port facilities were limited. There was speculation that Russia may begin evacuating its nationals from Syria and deploy Marines to protect personnel and equipment, as the violence intensifies (about 30,000 Russian citizens were said to be living in Syria).[28][30]

In May 2013, a U.S. newspaper reported that Russia had sent a dozen or more warships to patrol waters near Tartus, a move that was seen as a warning to the U.S. and Israel not to intervene in the conflict in Syria.[31]

At the end of June 2013, Russian deputy foreign minister Mikhail Bogdanov said in an interview that the facility did not have any strategic or military importance and that Russia had evacuated all civilian and military personnel from Tartus and Syria (″Presently, the Russian Defense Ministry has not a single person stationed in Syria″).[32][33] This information was then confirmed by the Russian Defense Ministry.[32]

After the Operational formation of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea was formed in September 2013, the facility at Tartus was charged with servicing and repairs of the ships of that formation.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus
 
The Syrian Civil War is an ongoing international armed conflict taking place in Syria.[24] The unrest began in the early spring of 2011 within the context of Arab Spring protests, with nationwide protests against President Bashar al-Assad's government, whose forces responded with violent crackdowns. The civil uprising phase created the platform for emergence of militant opposition movements and massive defections from the Syrian Army, which gradually transformed the conflict from a civil uprising to an armed rebellion, and later a civil war. The rebel Free Syrian Army was created on 29 July 2011 and from then on, the struggle took the shape of an armed insurgency, with civil resistance disbanded and opposition members turning to arms. Many factions arose, either as break offs of the Free Syrian Army or spontaneously in their own rights.[25]

By 2012 it was reported the U.S was running a covert operation in aid of militant groups fighting the Assad government.[26][27]

On 6 March 2013, the Arab League gave its members the green light to arm the Syrian rebels.[28] On 26 March 2013, at the Arab league summit in Doha, the League recognised the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, as the legitimate representatives of the Syrian people.[29]

Since 2014, a significant part of Syria′s territory had been claimed by Islamic State (ISIL), an entity internationally recognised as a terrorist organization; a number of Western and other countries, most notably the U.S., Britain and France, began to participate in direct military action against ISIL in the territory of Syria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
 
Russia has supported the internationally recognised government of Syria since the beginning of the Syrian conflict in 2011: politically, with military aid, and since 30 September 2015 also through direct military involvement. The latter marked the first time since the end of the Cold War that Russia entered an armed conflict outside the borders of the former Soviet Union.[1]

Since October 2011, Russia, as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, repeatedly vetoed Western-sponsored draft resolutions in the UN Security Council that demanded the resignation of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and opened the possibility of U.N. sanctions against his government.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
 
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