Nancy has been waiting because she wants more than just impeachment-JAIL!!

Bill said:
Is this the best move???




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I think she's lying. I don't say that because I dislike Pelosi. I think she's a good and effective public servant. But I don't believe for a moment that she's holding impeachment off because she thinks justice will eventually come in the form of Trump being jailed. She knows better. Even clear crooks like Nixon and Bush were either pardoned or given an unofficial pardon by their successors. If Trump is at any risk of being imprisoned, he'll get the same treatment, and not only does Pelosi know it, but she'll happily be complicit in it when it comes to that. That's just how our ruling class behaves towards their own. So, why is she saying this?

Easy -- she thinks an impeachment effort would backfire, politically, as it did with Clinton, and she is working to prevent it from happening. She doesn't want that to look like she's "soft on Trump," and she's trying to carve out some rhetoric that gives Democrats the ability to neglect their duty while still signalling outrage about Trump.

Again, I'm not saying that to damn Pelosi, or the other Democrats who are working to prevent an impeachment effort. Maybe their strategy is the right one. But I think it's important to be honest, and I don't believe for a moment that Pelosi's opposition to impeachment has anything to do with wanting Trump imprisoned.
 
JPP leftists don’t understand it because they are simpletons who like the red meat, but Pelosi’s comments actually show weakness and a lack of courage on her part

I will explain in yet another one of my thoughtful and insightful posts in APP

Stay Tuned...........
 
Oneuli said:
I think she's lying. I don't say that because I dislike Pelosi. I think she's a good and effective public servant. But I don't believe for a moment that she's holding impeachment off because she thinks justice will eventually come in the form of Trump being jailed. She knows better. Even clear crooks like Nixon and Bush were either pardoned or given an unofficial pardon by their successors. If Trump is at any risk of being imprisoned, he'll get the same treatment, and not only does Pelosi know it, but she'll happily be complicit in it when it comes to that. That's just how our ruling class behaves towards their own. So, why is she saying this?

Easy -- she thinks an impeachment effort would backfire, politically, as it did with Clinton, and she is working to prevent it from happening. She doesn't want that to look like she's "soft on Trump," and she's trying to carve out some rhetoric that gives Democrats the ability to neglect their duty while still signalling outrage about Trump.

Again, I'm not saying that to damn Pelosi, or the other Democrats who are working to prevent an impeachment effort. Maybe their strategy is the right one. But I think it's important to be honest, and I don't believe for a moment that Pelosi's opposition to impeachment has anything to do with wanting Trump imprisoned.
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You’re pretty much right lol.

Impeachment wouldn’t be a good political strategy for democrats. I don’t care for Pelosi at all but she IS a shrewd politician and as Speaker of the House she needs to look at all sides of it.

There’s several reasons Pelosi—contrary to her rhetoric, doesn’t want to impeach. The obvious one is the Clinton parallel. If Trump were a miserable president things would be easier for Pelosi. Problem is, we’re in the midst of an economic boom; unlike his immediate predecessors, Trump has yet to make a serious foreign policy mistake—much less, get us into a war.

So there’s that.

The other problem is a Senate trial is just that—it’s a trial. You never know what’s going to come out in a trial and Pelosi knows that there’s no guarantee that everything that comes out is going to be bad for Trump. It would very likely go the other way since Mullet’s report is public knowledge and things about the Russian investigation are just starting to leak out.

Which brings us to the proverbial Elephant in the Room. The investigation is under investigation by a determined AG and by his appointed prosecutor Durham. This isn’t a congressional dog and pony show investigation any more. It’s fittingly ironic that the team of federal prosecutors are doing the interviews on people who were involved in the origin of the Russian investigation.

And Pelosi doesn’t know what they know or what they are going to uncover. Politicians like Pelosi are risk averse critters. An impeachment trial has the potential to turn into a political house of horrors for democrats.

I’ll be very surprised if she pulls the trigger on it.
 
Darth Omar said:
You’re pretty much right lol.

Impeachment wouldn’t be a good political strategy for democrats. I don’t care for Pelosi at all but she IS a shrewd politician and as Speaker of the House she needs to look at all sides of it.

There’s several reasons Pelosi—contrary to her rhetoric, doesn’t want to impeach. The obvious one is the Clinton parallel. If Trump were a miserable president things would be easier for Pelosi. Problem is, we’re in the midst of an economic boom; unlike his immediate predecessors, Trump has yet to make a serious foreign policy mistake—much less, get us into a war.

So there’s that.

The other problem is a Senate trial is just that—it’s a trial. You never know what’s going to come out in a trial and Pelosi knows that there’s no guarantee that everything that comes out is going to be bad for Trump. It would very likely go the other way since Mullet’s report is public knowledge and things about the Russian investigation are just starting to leak out.

Which brings us to the proverbial Elephant in the Room. The investigation is under investigation by a determined AG and by his appointed prosecutor Durham. This isn’t a congressional dog and pony show investigation any more. It’s fittingly ironic that the team of federal prosecutors are doing the interviews on people who were involved in the origin of the Russian investigation.

And Pelosi doesn’t know what they know or what they are going to uncover. Politicians like Pelosi are risk averse critters. An impeachment trial has the potential to turn into a political house of horrors for democrats.

I’ll be very surprised if she pulls the trigger on it.
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Add the long shot of the 25th amendment happening in the back of her mind.
 
Southern Chicken said:
Add the long shot of the 25th amendment happening in the back of her mind.
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Lefties fear Pence but removing Trump is such a long shot it’s hardly worth mentioning lol.

For all the impeachment talk, Democrats only have 60 votes in the House. No way would the Senate vote for impeachment on a Republican President with approval numbers hovering around 90% amongst Republicans.

And certainly not, for threatening to obstruct an investigation that produced no underlying crime. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
 
Rightys, this is different. There was blowback from the Clinton impeachment because at its core, it was sex between consenting adults. The people knew Starr was on a political witch hunt. He spent years looking for something, anything to nall Clinton on. He was partisan and dishonest'.

Trump is a damn crook and is unable to hold a government together. He has committed real crimes and offended the constitution as s sport. The presidency is protecting Trump from indictment. Over 1000 prosecutors say Trump's indictment would be a cinch to obtain. The real investigations are just starting in the house. It will get ugly as more and more of the thief in chiefs crooked ways emerge.
 
Darth Omar said:
Lefties fear Pence but removing Trump is such a long shot it’s hardly worth mentioning lol.

For all the impeachment talk, Democrats only have 60 votes in the House. No way would the Senate vote for impeachment on a Republican President with approval numbers hovering around 90% amongst Republicans.

And certainly not, for threatening to obstruct an investigation that produced no underlying crime. It’s delusional to think otherwise.
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Almost 60, The media had to attempt to round that number up to give it a hint of respectability.
 
Grumpy said:
And just what did Bush do that makes him a crook?
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He ordered the electronic surveillance of US persons without submitting a request to the FISA court for a warrant. He clearly admitted to it. That was a felony, at the time, and he did it many times. By all rights, he ought to have spent the rest of his life in prison, even if he got a bare minimum sentence for each such felony. But Obama inappropriately pressured his AG to turn a blind eye to the crimes of the last administration.
 
Grumpy said:
Look where she lives! Hell with the leadership in NY even Al Capone would look like a pillar of virtue.
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Although NY has had its share of scumbags in politics (Giuliani, for example), overall it's been blessed with fairly competent leadership, leading to unusually good lives for its residents. If you compare NY to the nation in terms of pretty much any indicator of how nice a place is to live (life expectancy, infant mortality, education levels, home values, incomes, incarceration rate, violent crime rates, obesity rates, etc.), NY is pretty much always better than average, and usually among the ten best states (e.g., sixth-longest life expectancy of any state). If you want to see poorly governed areas of the country, you'd do better to look South, to places like Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, South Carolina, etc., where life is nasty, brutish, and short.
 
Gonzomin said:
Rightys, this is different. There was blowback from the Clinton impeachment because at its core, it was sex between consenting adults. The people knew Starr was on a political witch hunt. He spent years looking for something, anything to nall Clinton on. He was partisan and dishonest'.

Trump is a damn crook and is unable to hold a government together. He has committed real crimes and offended the constitution as s sport. The presidency is protecting Trump from indictment. Over 1000 prosecutors say Trump's indictment would be a cinch to obtain. The real investigations are just starting in the house. It will get ugly as more and more of the thief in chiefs crooked ways emerge.
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I wonder how many of those 1000 prosecutors actually were a part of this investigation? Or maybe they were all former prosecutors that believes and made a observation on information that they did not have access to directly. Maybe Mueller needs to be called in for additional details to the report.
 
RB 60 said:
I'd say you're retarded, but that would be an insult to those who are.
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You fit the profile of a mass shooter.

I see right through this posturing you do here for the weak, frail loser you truly are.

You don't fool me.
 
Southern Chicken said:
I wonder how many of those 1000 prosecutors actually were a part of this investigation? Or maybe they were all former prosecutors that believes and made a observation on information that they did not have access to directly. Maybe Mueller needs to be called in for additional details to the report.
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Unlike you, they read the Mueller Report.

So that's how they came to their conclusions.

You should try reading it yourself, if you're not too cowardly.
 
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