Reperations~ The other persepective- Rep Jim Clyburn

[Bill]

This is pretty close to what I have been thinking, what about you.

Pls start @ 18:30-20:00 (recommend the entire interview)

VIDEO​

From that moment in American history, how do you think about reparations?​

I say to people that the big mistake all of us make with reparations is monetizing it.
The moment you say ‘reparations,’ people start thinking money.
Reparations, the root word of which is ‘repair’ — it means to repair what may be a fault.
You can repair it by funding — targeting resources into these communities.
You can repair it by funding historical black colleges and universities that bring these young people off the sea islands and set them straight for success.
We could make a very comprehensive reparations approach and not spend all our time arguing about the money, ’cause you would never be able to monetize this in any fair way.
So, my thing is, let’s make the repairs that are necessary, and let’s put forth programs that are going to repair the fault that had developed out of slavery.

Do you think that’s gonna have to be the starting pitch of every 2020 candidate on the Democratic side when it comes to reparations, at least demonstrating and standing for an exploration of how to commit a repair to the African-American community?

I think they should.
I think they should.
I don’t know if they are doing it.
I remember two candidates, the moment it came up, they started talking about money.
And that is where you — you just reach of point of no return.
You devolve into a discussion that you can’t dig out of.

 

[Jack]

I believe that is true.
Both TTQ and Taichi come across as people looking for a 'PayDay'.
'Reparations' is a nice Bumper Sticker slogan, but actual implementation is a tough go.
Bernie Sanders has talked about 'Wealth Inequality' and wants to attack the Problem with more Resources.
I haven't looked at the 'Video' yet, I'm kind of busy, but what you've presented so far seems like a more reasonable approach and a more doable approach.

 

[dukkha]

gawd almighty give it up already. we've had 50+ years of affirmative action -if that doesn't help nothing will.

 

[Jack]

gawd almighty give it up already. we've had 50+ years of affirmative action -if that doesn't help nothing will.

I went back and looked at the short Video. Clyburn says what Bill has quoted. There's a difference here between what you are saying and what Clyburn is saying.

Affirmative Action HANDS our African friends something. Similar to how their FREEDOM was HANDED to them. No effort on their part.
This proposal creates an OPPORTUNITY for them to. Maybe it's an all paid for college education? Maybe it's an all paid for Trade School?
The Motivated will rise, the Deadbeats will still complain about how Life is so unfair.

 

[CFM]

This is pretty close to what I have been thinking, what about you.

Pls start @ 18:30-20:00 (recommend the entire interview)

VIDEO​

From that moment in American history, how do you think about reparations?​

I say to people that the big mistake all of us make with reparations is monetizing it.
The moment you say ‘reparations,’ people start thinking money.
Reparations, the root word of which is ‘repair’ — it means to repair what may be a fault.
You can repair it by funding — targeting resources into these communities.
You can repair it by funding historical black colleges and universities that bring these young people off the sea islands and set them straight for success.
We could make a very comprehensive reparations approach and not spend all our time arguing about the money, ’cause you would never be able to monetize this in any fair way.
So, my thing is, let’s make the repairs that are necessary, and let’s put forth programs that are going to repair the fault that had developed out of slavery.

Do you think that’s gonna have to be the starting pitch of every 2020 candidate on the Democratic side when it comes to reparations, at least demonstrating and standing for an exploration of how to commit a repair to the African-American community?

I think they should.
I think they should.
I don’t know if they are doing it.
I remember two candidates, the moment it came up, they started talking about money.
And that is where you — you just reach of point of no return.
You devolve into a discussion that you can’t dig out of.

Jumpin Jim says it isn't about money yet proposes programs/resources that involve funding by, wait for it, money. Maybe he's so stupid that he thinks if it's programs rather than direct payments, money isn't money. Good thing he's in a gerrymandered majority minority district or the only way he'd get to go to the Capitol was to shine shoes.

 

[CFM]

I went back and looked at the short Video. Clyburn says what Bill has quoted. There's a difference here between what you are saying and what Clyburn is saying.

Affirmative Action HANDS our African friends something. Similar to how their FREEDOM was HANDED to them. No effort on their part.
This proposal creates an OPPORTUNITY for them to. Maybe it's an all paid for college education? Maybe it's an all paid for Trade School?
The Motivated will rise, the Deadbeats will still complain about how Life is so unfair.

The motivated don't need affirmative action. Their motivation gets the job done and use the content of their character to get ahead. It's the less than motivated that have to use affirmative action because they have no character.

 

[CFM]

I believe that is true.
Both TTQ and Taichi come across as people looking for a 'PayDay'.
'Reparations' is a nice Bumper Sticker slogan, but actual implementation is a tough go.
Bernie Sanders has talked about 'Wealth Inequality' and wants to attack the Problem with more Resources.
I haven't looked at the 'Video' yet, I'm kind of busy, but what you've presented so far seems like a more reasonable approach and a more doable approach.

Reparations is nothing more than those never having been slaves wanting something funded by those that never owned slaves.

 

[Bill]

gawd almighty give it up already. we've had 50+ years of affirmative action -if that doesn't help nothing will.

Why didn't you @ least watch the fuckin 1 1/2 min clip.

 

[Bill]

I believe that is true.
Both TTQ and Taichi come across as people looking for a 'PayDay'.
'Reparations' is a nice Bumper Sticker slogan, but actual implementation is a tough go.
Bernie Sanders has talked about 'Wealth Inequality' and wants to attack the Problem with more Resources.
I haven't looked at the 'Video' yet, I'm kind of busy, but what you've presented so far seems like a more reasonable approach and a more doable approach.

I have always been in favor, but didn't think money was the way to go, more along the lines Rep Clyburn described, & for those reasons..

I dunno what she thinks on it...

It is very controversial & as you can see, many are not interested in dealing w/ it, & for various reasons-real & imagined..

 

[Jack]

Capitalism has 'Winners' and 'Losers'. There's going to be a 'Bottom Tier'
The QUESTION: If it's Majority Black, is it deserved ... or is it systemic racism?
We need to all START at the same point, and then let the Talented and Deserving rise, while the lesser amongst us fall behind.
(this may be impossible to implement, but it would be the Ideal)

 

[Bill]

Jumpin Jim says it isn't about money yet proposes programs/resources that involve funding by, wait for it, money. Maybe he's so stupid that he thinks if it's programs rather than direct payments, money isn't money. Good thing he's in a gerrymandered majority minority district or the only way he'd get to go to the Capitol was to shine shoes.

Since you are totally ignorant on the topic I will explain it to you in simple terms even you can understand, but wait, you don't care anyway, so should you actually read it, or listen I will reply, in the mean time stick your head back in the sand......

 

[CFM]

Why didn't you @ least watch the fuckin 1 1/2 min clip.

Jim Clyburn wouldn't stand a chance of getting elected dog catcher if he didn't have the built in guarantee of his majority minority district. I find it interesting that his district is the poorest, by far, in the state of SC, and the only district in SC where the use of food stamps exceeds 20%. It's not a surprise it's 60% black.

After 28 years, you'd think he could have done something for his own people. Maybe he did the best he could do with which he had to work.

 

[Bill]

Jim Clyburn wouldn't stand a chance of getting elected dog catcher if he didn't have the built in guarantee of his majority minority district. I find it interesting that his district is the poorest, by far, in the state of SC, and the only district in SC where the use of food stamps exceeds 20%. It's not a surprise it's 60% black.

After 28 years, you'd think he could have done something for his own people.

& what is it you would have had him do, since you are so smart & all about his district etc.

 

[CFM]

Since you are totally ignorant on the topic I will explain it to you in simple terms even you can understand, but wait, you don't care anyway, so should you actually read it, or listen I will reply, in the mean time stick your head back in the sand......View attachment 10353

I'm not the one that thinks money is different from money. Jumpin Jim does and so do you.

We both know where you'll stick your head and it appears it's up another nigger's ass.

 

[CFM]

& what is it you would have had him do, since you are so smart & all about his district etc.

Stop doing what he's been doing since it isn't working.

I know his district well and far better than you ever would.

 

[Bill]

Stop doing what he's been doing since it isn't working.

I know his district well and far better than you ever would.

So you got no answer.... surprise there......

 

[CFM]

So you got no answer.... surprise there......

I gave an answer. Perhaps you think continuing to do the same thing will produce different results. No surprise there.

 

[Jack]

Bill: "I have always been in favor, but didn't think money was the way to go, more along the lines Rep Clyburn described, & for those reasons."
Jack; Yeah. What happened to the 'Mule and 40 acres'?

Bill: "It is very controversial & as you can see, many are not interested in dealing w/ it, & for various reasons-real & imagined."
Jack: I'm not sure it's that 'controversial'. A group feels 'oppressed' and may have a legitimate grievance.

You're over there in NoCal, I'm down here in the South. I can tell you, Blacks here got fucked over. Lots of Project Niggers here. There seems to be a Mentality of Hopelessness. Going to Prison means '3 Meals and a Cot'. Not really what you would think most children would aspire to.

I have always been in favor, but didn't think money was the way to go, more along the lines Rep Clyburn described, & for those reasons..

I dunno what she thinks on it...

It is very controversial & as you can see, many are not interested in dealing w/ it, & for various reasons-real & imagined..

 

[CFM]

Bill: "I have always been in favor, but didn't think money was the way to go, more along the lines Rep Clyburn described, & for those reasons."
Jack; Yeah. What happened to the 'Mule and 40 acres'?

Bill: "It is very controversial & as you can see, many are not interested in dealing w/ it, & for various reasons-real & imagined."
Jack: I'm not sure it's that 'controversial'. A group feels 'oppressed' and may have a legitimate grievance.

You're over there in NoCal, I'm down here in the South. I can tell you, Blacks here got fucked over. Lots of Project Niggers here. There seems to be a Mentality of Hopelessness. Going to Prison means '3 Meals and a Cot'. Not really what you would think most children would aspire to.

When you're part of a group that regularly blames others, has a bastard birth rate over 70%, and commits crimes on a disproportionate rate to your race, one can hardly say someone else if fucking you over. It seems you're fucking yourself over then wanting to blame others for the results.

 

[Jack]

When you're part of a group that regularly blames others, has a bastard birth rate over 70%, and commits crimes on a disproportionate rate to your race, one can hardly say someone else if fucking you over. It seems you're fucking yourself over then wanting to blame others for the results.

Blacks in the South have been systematically sidelined. There's a 'culture' in the South that promotes this. YOUR attitude is a perfect example of how it works.