Which is your favorite excuse for Trump's racist tweets about the Squad?

[In the Night]

It doesn't. It's just more nonsense from racists who want to pretend that they're not. Anyone who has read any books written in the 1800s or through mid-20th century about the South has seen the word used. Sometimes they say "nigra(s)", the more educated used "Negro(s)", sometimes "darkies," but most often "nigger(s)." It began as shorthand for African slaves, then post-Civil War it became a pejorative. It's part of a lexicon of ugly words to describe those who were other -- spics, greasers, wops, coons, wetbacks, chinks, kikes, dagos, pollacks, krauts, slants, micks, redskins, injuns, gooks, spooks, squaws, honky, crackers, ragheads, towel heads, nips, etc. Racists and xenophobics use the term to make sure that we understand that those ppl are not like us... and inferior to boot.

From Wikipedia: "Nigger / nigra / nigga / niggah / nigguh
(U.S., UK) An offensive term for a black person. From the word negro, which means the color black in numerous languages. Diminutive appellations include Nigg and Nigz. Over time, the terms nigga and niggaz (plural) have come to be frequently used between some African-Americans without the negative associations of nigger."

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a reference. You cannot use it as a reference with me. It's articles are biased, incomplete, badly worded, or even outright wrong.

 

[In the Night]

Actually I studied both Latin and Spanish and I know what the Spanish word for black is.

I don't believe you. If you did, you would understand the word is not always used in a derogatory manner.

I'm saying that using the N-word as a racist slur dates to the 18th century.

It's also still used today not as a racist slur.

I'm curious about why people living on a continent that's 80% black would call someone the N-word.

For the simple reason it means 'black'.

Our country is something like 75% white yet we don't refer to each other as "whitey."

No, but we call each other white.

 

[In the Night]

I think the same thing about your posts.

Contextomy fallacy. You have lost all context now. Done here.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Wikipedia summarily dismissed as a reference. You cannot use it as a reference with me. It's articles are biased, incomplete, badly worded, or even outright wrong.

Code for: "Oh fuck, you proved me wrong so I must attack your source!"

Even though my first paragraph was my own and did not come from Wikipedia or any other source other than my own excellent memory, and my own knowledge of etymology.

Do you think you can stop being a racist some day soon?

 

[In the Night]

Then why didn't you acknowledge that it wasn't used as a slur until the 18th century? You're focusing on the root of the word and not the context in which it became offensive.

It's not offensive today, not unless it is used in a derogatory manner. It simply means 'black'.

 

[In the Night]

IKR. Why people have to justify the use of the word with semantic arguments is beyond me.

The use of a word IS a semantic argument, dumbass.

 

[In the Night]

Ah, and Into the night is opening antiquities to defend the KKK. How endearing.

I do not defend the KKK in any way. They are violent sicko fucks that only want to see blacks harmed.

 

[Phantasmal]

Contextomy fallacy. You have lost all context now. Done here.

Yeah, I’d leave, too.

 

[In the Night]

We'll see. He's a master at claiming fallacy for posts he disagrees with.

A fallacy is not a disagreement. Redefinition fallacy (logic<->disagreement). Try English. It works better.

 

[christiefan915]

I don't believe you. If you did, you would understand the word is not always used in a derogatory manner.

It's also still used today not as a racist slur.

For the simple reason it means 'black'.

No, but we call each other white.

You can turn yourself inside out trying to persuade us that the N-word not a derogatory term but in this country it is, and has been for several centuries. I doubt the members of Stormfront or Chimpout are thinking about the etymology of nigrum or negre when they use the word as a racial slur.

 

[In the Night]

We actually, "honkey" etymology is from the Aramaic hogla from the dead sea scrolls, as transcribed by Herodotus in 400 BC. Leaves you sorta breathless, don't it?

Nope. It has always been a derogatory term. It first appeared in the mid 40's.

 

[In the Night]

Cognitive bias is his affliction.

Psychoquackery.

 

[In the Night]

Because 1) they are racist, and 2) they stupidly equate offensive names for ppl who ain't like them as "free speech."

You don't get it, do you? I despise racism. I despise derogatory terms for people.

 

[christiefan915]

Nope. It has always been a derogatory term. It first appeared in the mid 40's.

"Honky" is derogatory but the N-word is not?

 

[Micawber]

I do not defend the KKK in any way. They are violent sicko fucks that only want to see blacks harmed.

Anyone making academic arguments about the N word deserves what they get. It's a ridiculous endeavor. See, there is this thing call "time"
So whether or not the N word was once derogatory or calumny neutral, it certainly is not that now.

The N word IS inherently racist. It doesn't matter what it once was. To even begin to try that illuminates more about the person attempting
it than any light they can shed on meaning.

 

[In the Night]

Code for: "Oh fuck, you proved me wrong so I must attack your source!"

False authority fallacy. Circular argument fallacy.

Even though my first paragraph was my own and did not come from Wikipedia or any other source other than my own excellent memory, and my own knowledge of etymology.

Divisional error fallacy. I don't believe you have much of a knowledge of the source of any word. You have already shown it.

Do you think you can stop being a racist some day soon?

I'm not racist.

 

[In the Night]

You can turn yourself inside out trying to persuade us that the N-word not a derogatory term but in this country it is, and has been for several centuries. I doubt the members of Stormfront or Chimpout are thinking about the etymology of nigrum or negre when they use the word as a racial slur.

It is not always a derogatory word, even in the United States.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You don't get it, do you? I despise racism. I despise derogatory terms for people.

I have yet to see that. What I've seen is you defending the word "nigger" as not racist. Because you so etymology-ist and shit.

 

[christiefan915]

It is not always a derogatory word, even in the United States.

You're right. Stormfront, Chimpout and N****rmania consider it high praise.

 

[In the Night]

"Honky" is derogatory but the N-word is not?

'Honky' has always been used in a derogatory manner. The word 'nigger' has often been used that way, but sometimes it is not, even in the United States, even today.