Did Russian Interference Affect the 2016 Election Results?

“Mass campaigns of organized psyops don’t work” - Trumfucks cult disciples everywhere

May as well as Manson chicks if Charlie is evil.

Ask the US Army if psyops works, you ignorant hick loser scum sucking dildos.
 
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.



Affected...and hold up...if voter rolls were affected, then the election upon which those rolls were used wasn't legitimate!

So now you've moved the bar so much as to invalidate the election you're saying was hacked!

Hacking and changing the voter rolls affects the election.

You just stepped in it.

They alledgedly copied public voter rolls.
Didnt change or alter in any way.
Meaningless
 
“Mass campaigns of organized psyops don’t work” - Trumfucks cult disciples everywhere
May as well as Manson chicks if Charlie is evil.
Ask the US Army if psyops works, you ignorant hick loser scum sucking dildos.

Anyone have a moron translator for this boorish word salad. This dunce is super triggered.
 
If there was no collusion, why did Paul Manafort share polling data with Kilimnik for months when he was campaign manager?
Kilimnik wasn't a Russian asset -he was a Ukraine political advisor and US State Dept asset

If there was no collusion, what was the 2016 Trump Tower meeting about?
taking a meeting on false pretense is not collusion

If there was no collusion, why did the GOP change their party platform to be pro-Russia at the RNC?
they did not -another meme you bought into

If there was no collusion, why did Trump ask Russia to "find Clinton's e-mails"?
Trump campaign rhetoric

What really happened with the GOP platform and Russia
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-what-really-happened-with-the-gop-platform-and-russia
We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union," the platform said. "We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination."

It would be hard to call that a pro-Putin statement. Every word of it stayed in the final platform.

When the platform committee met before the GOP convention in Cleveland, one delegate out of the 100 on the committee — a Texas political activist named Diana Denman — proposed an amendment. Denman, who came to the convention as a Ted Cruz delegate but later switched her support to Trump, was interested because she had traveled to Ukraine as an international election observer in 1998 and has ever since "kept an eye on the emerging democracies," she told me in a conversation last March.
 
They alledgedly copied public voter rolls.

How do you know that?

And why would they just copy the voter rolls after you just said one post ago that they "were effected [sic]":

Only voter rolls effected which are public anyway.

So you moved the bar. You said that the voter rolls were affected, but then you said they were just "copied".

Why would Russia copy voter rolls? That makes no sense.


Didnt change or alter in any way.

You literally said in the last post that they were "effected [sic]".

How does copying them "effect [sic]" them?

Why would Russia just copy the lists? What purpose does that serve them?

You really fucked up. You just gave away the whole game. Well done, numbskull.
 
Kilimnik wasn't a Russian asset -he was a Ukraine political advisor and US State Dept asset

Why did Paul Manafort share polling data with Kilimnik for months when Manafort was campaign manager?

You didn't answer that question.
 
No one wants to admit Russia hacked into the voting systems and had the capacity to alter totals because doing so would pretty much invalidate the 2016 election, and no one wants to confront the fact that our elections are not secure.
horseshit.. You are making it up that up out of thin air
 
Why did Paul Manafort share polling data with Kilimnik for months when Manafort was campaign manager?

You didn't answer that question.
it was never addressed in court so I can only speculate.
I think it was because Manafort wanted to help the guy who took over as advisor for the
Ukraine Party of Regions -but that's just my guess. Or maybe he owed him a favor.

It doesn't matter since Kilimnik did not report to Russia
 
horseshit.. You are making it up that up out of thin air

You're the one who was wrong about Russia hacking at all.

For two years, you said -repeatedly- that Russia didn't hack anything.

Then about four months ago, once Mueller's report came out and it detailed the Russian hacking that you couldn't deny, you changed all that to now admit that they hacked, but you're going with the line that they didn't alter or change anything.

So your judgment was wrong once about this subject for two years...so why would it be right now?
 
That's the excuse you're going with?

Explain the rhetoric about asking Russia to find Clinton's e-mails days after a meeting where her e-mails were the topic of discussion?
do you think if Trump had true nefarious intentions and "collusion" with Russia he would announce it at a campaign rally?

It was Trump bombastic playing to the crowd
 
You're the one who was wrong about Russia hacking at all.

For two years, you said -repeatedly- that Russia didn't hack anything.

Then about four months ago, once Mueller's report came out and it detailed the Russian hacking that you couldn't deny, you changed all that to now admit that they hacked, but you're going with the line that they didn't alter or change anything. So your judgment was wrong once about this subject for two years...so why would it be right now?
deflection asked and answered.
I gotta go swimming -enjoy your nothing burger in the meantime
 
Because, as you all like to say (without any real proof, but it makes for a neat narrative), they were Obama voters.

So if they were cool with Obama, why wouldn't they be cool with Clinton, who worked for Obama, and who campaigned on continuing Obama's legacy? Simple; because of Russian propaganda.

Well, about 8-9 million of Trump's voters did vote for Obama and I supplied you many links to prove this. You attempted to refute it by claiming the math showed that would be too many voters. I then refuted your math by showing you did not count the (larger number) of third-party voters.

They were cool about Obama but not Clinton because: 1) Obama was a newcomer without all the negative baggage of Hillary; 2) people voted for Obama because he promised "change." Like all candidates who promise change, it never happens.

If propaganda wasn't effective, why do companies spend billions of dollars on advertising?

Brand identification. Even corporations admit half of their advertising is wasted--they just don't know which half.

Corporations often have products we all want (restaurants, cell phones, cars, homes) while nobody likes politicians.

Have you ever changed your mind based on advertising; or, have you loyally voted Democratic for many years in the past and future? Campaign ads are aimed at reinforcing the support of their side by telling us how terrible the other side is and by attempting to influence the undecided. In 2016 there were more voters who were late deciders because of the high negative ratings of both candidates thus subject to more influence and explaining the larger third party vote.

Those examples just illustrate how fucking dumb and easily conned they are.

I agree. Voting for both Obama and Trump prove it.
 
it was never addressed in court so I can only speculate.
I think it was because Manafort wanted to help the guy who took over as advisor for the
Ukraine Party of Regions -but that's just my guess. Or maybe he owed him a favor.

What favor?

And how does sharing polling data on US elections repay a favor unless that data was to be used in some way to interfere in the election?

Come on...you know what the answer is...just say it.

How does sharing polling data from MI, WI, and PA "repay" Kilimnik for a favor he did?

And what favor did Kilimnik do that caused Manafort to feel obligated to share seemingly random polling data with a guy who has nothing to do with the US election?

Your weirdo explanation is only opening up more difficult questions for you to answer.


It doesn't matter since Kilimnik did not report to Russia

Actually, you don't know that. He looks to have been reporting to both sides because that's what untrustworthy people do.
 
How do you know that?

And why would they just copy the voter rolls after you just said one post ago that they "were effected [sic]":



So you moved the bar. You said that the voter rolls were affected, but then you said they were just "copied".

Why would Russia copy voter rolls? That makes no sense.




You literally said in the last post that they were "effected [sic]".

How does copying them "effect [sic]" them?

Why would Russia just copy the lists? What purpose does that serve them?

You really fucked up. You just gave away the whole game. Well done, numbskull.

How about a link to support your lunacy instead of the speculative bullshit asshole?

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fake news. WAPO published the same garbage. Read my link- it debunks the matter

Your link is the fake news...and your link also says the platform was changed to be more pro-Russia, and the GOP went along with it anyway!
 
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