Trump calls Obama's clean water rule 'horrible, horrible'

meanwhile........EPA removes the Clean Water Rule, creating chaos for water regulations—and paradise for polluters

As part of his rambling speech delivered to House Republicans on Thursday night, Donald Trump once again claimed that America had the “cleanest water” in its whole “25 years” since people first arrived in North America. That cleanest water claim is one that Trump has made over and over. What he has never provided is a single example of something he’s done to make the water cleaner. Sure, he’s relaxed laws to allow more waste from factory farms, from mining operations, from coal slurry, and from industrial runoff, but those are all things that make water worse, not better. However, Trump continues to make this claim, unchallenged, time and again.

And now Trump is making the water even ”cleaner” … by rolling back critical protections. As Politico reports, EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler has already signed a notice eliminating a rule designed to protect small streams and endangered wetlands. The Clean Water Rule, instituted by President Obama in 2015, replaced a set of overlapping and contradictory rules that were entangled in court challenges with a single, consistent set of federal protections. Without it, no one—no one—knows what waters are protected, and which are not.

Because the Clean Water Rule replaced earlier regulations, the repeal of that rule means that control over anything smaller than a navigable river is essentially nonexistent. That includes sources of drinking water for 117 million Americans. That includes stripping regulation from the smaller rivers and headwaters that provide the backbone of hotly debated water supplies in the Western states.

Creating the Clean Water Rule was the work of years. It not only included a carefully structured legal framework for dealing with issues of water rights, but featured extensive scientific data and analysis showing why the rule was necessary. To end the Clean Water Rule, the EPA should have had to provide both public notice of intent, addressed those earlier analysis, and explained how these changes would deal with the legal issues handled by the rule. None of that happened.

Wheeler has made a number of speeches about ending “stifling” legislation and how getting rid of the rule will create “innovation.” Some of that innovation will apparently be in how Americans deal with the water wars the abrupt removal of the Clean Water Rule could create.

~ @devilstower on Twitter
 
reagansghost said:
meanwhile........EPA removes the Clean Water Rule, creating chaos for water regulations—and paradise for polluters

As part of his rambling speech delivered to House Republicans on Thursday night, Donald Trump once again claimed that America had the “cleanest water” in its whole “25 years” since people first arrived in North America. That cleanest water claim is one that Trump has made over and over. What he has never provided is a single example of something he’s done to make the water cleaner. Sure, he’s relaxed laws to allow more waste from factory farms, from mining operations, from coal slurry, and from industrial runoff, but those are all things that make water worse, not better. However, Trump continues to make this claim, unchallenged, time and again.

And now Trump is making the water even ”cleaner” … by rolling back critical protections. As Politico reports, EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler has already signed a notice eliminating a rule designed to protect small streams and endangered wetlands. The Clean Water Rule, instituted by President Obama in 2015, replaced a set of overlapping and contradictory rules that were entangled in court challenges with a single, consistent set of federal protections. Without it, no one—no one—knows what waters are protected, and which are not.

Because the Clean Water Rule replaced earlier regulations, the repeal of that rule means that control over anything smaller than a navigable river is essentially nonexistent. That includes sources of drinking water for 117 million Americans. That includes stripping regulation from the smaller rivers and headwaters that provide the backbone of hotly debated water supplies in the Western states.

Creating the Clean Water Rule was the work of years. It not only included a carefully structured legal framework for dealing with issues of water rights, but featured extensive scientific data and analysis showing why the rule was necessary. To end the Clean Water Rule, the EPA should have had to provide both public notice of intent, addressed those earlier analysis, and explained how these changes would deal with the legal issues handled by the rule. None of that happened.

Wheeler has made a number of speeches about ending “stifling” legislation and how getting rid of the rule will create “innovation.” Some of that innovation will apparently be in how Americans deal with the water wars the abrupt removal of the Clean Water Rule could create.

~ @devilstower on Twitter
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Twitter opinions. The new facts for liberals.
 
Look at all the poor groaning dips in this discussion.:laugh: Your groans mean nothing when you use them with such vigor. You just end up looking like children and ruin a quirky feature.
 
nolongertolerant said:
Never watched Fox in my life. Explain to me if you can liberal how you take an opinion on twitter over actual facts already posted on this thread. How much of simpleton are you?
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You won't read this either because 1) reading's too hard, and 2) the facts contained within will clash with your cherished principles of Industry Knows Best. But here goes anyways:

https://www.ecowatch.com/trump-admi...ds-2640338564.html?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clean-...al-of-obama-era-clean-water-regulation-today/

Basically they are changing the definition of "Waters of the United States" to allow the dumping of waste or whatever into ditches, small streams, ponds, etc. So if, for example, you live five miles from a factory hog farm, and enjoy your clean well water, you might want to think about either switching to delivered bottled water, or installing filters and doing weekly water sampling. If you live 10 miles downstream from a coal mining operation, look forward to much higher municipal water bills as your town scrambles to revamp their water treatment and filtering facilities in order to ensure your safety. Or maybe they won't bother. Drink up!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You won't read this either because 1) reading's too hard, and 2) the facts contained within will clash with your cherished principles of Industry Knows Best. But here goes anyways:

https://www.ecowatch.com/trump-admi...ds-2640338564.html?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clean-...al-of-obama-era-clean-water-regulation-today/

Basically they are changing the definition of "Waters of the United States" to allow the dumping of waste or whatever into ditches, small streams, ponds, etc. So if, for example, you live five miles from a factory hog farm, and enjoy your clean well water, you might want to think about either switching to delivered bottled water, or installing filters and doing weekly water sampling. If you live 10 miles downstream from a coal mining operation, look forward to much higher municipal water bills as your town scrambles to revamp their water treatment and filtering facilities in order to ensure your safety. Or maybe they won't bother. Drink up!
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I do not think I have conversed with you as of yet on this board. That has not stopped you though from acting like it seems all liberals do on this board. Just flapping their jaws, feeling like they are right and educated. And of course completely wrong.
 
nolongertolerant said:
I do not think I have conversed with you as of yet on this board. That has not stopped you though from acting like it seems all liberals do on this board. Just flapping their jaws, feeling like they are right and educated. And of course completely wrong.
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I see that you have refused to consider and discuss the facts presented, and instead have resorted to the typical ad homs of your kind. What a surprise. lol
 
Basically they are changing the definition of "Waters of the United States" to allow the dumping of waste or whatever into ditches, small streams, ponds, etc. So if, for example, you live five miles from a factory hog farm, and enjoy your clean well water,
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incorrect,they are changing the ENFORCEMENT from all federal to federal and local enforcement

The states are quite able to protect their intrastate waterways
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I see that you have refused to consider and discuss the facts presented, and instead have resorted to the typical ad homs of your kind. What a surprise. lol
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That is about the extent of the liberal intelligence I have become accustomed to on this board. It really seems to be all any of you have. Nothing.
 
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