New impeachment defense emerges!

And you have no problem lifting quotes out of context. Do you work in the media?

Volker didn’t know about a QPQ, Trump didn’t know about a QPQ—how do you goof balls know there was one lol?

:thup: Jarod suckered the board Libs ... again. :rofl2:
 
Sondland changed his story, Volker didn’t know about it so you have a mixed bag of witnesses to an alleged crime.

You know what juries do with that, right?

And how is it possible to pull off a QPQ *unwittingly*?

Trumps only witness officially changed his story so he is now useless for Trump, but juries are smart and they know that does not mean the other 9 witnesses were incorrect when they testified to the extortion.

I do admit that at this point it is difficult to prove this goes above Rudy to the President, but I have not seen all the evidence yet. I also expect Rudy would flip like a waffle given the chance, he is not one with much integrity. The other counts, the obstruction will be strong also.
 
Seen that one also, they are all over the place

You got to be drunk on the Kool Aid not to recognize that it was quid pro quo, you do this for me and we will make sure you get your aid we have been holding up, question becomes how Trump and his network frame it to appear as minimal

Trump's allies are going to try every trick in the book, which demonstrates their desperation.
 
Seen that one also, they are all over the place

You got to be drunk on the Kool Aid not to recognize that it was quid pro quo, you do this for me and we will make sure you get your aid we have been holding up, question becomes how Trump and his network frame it to appear as minimal

And the grifter thief was using taxpayer money for this EXTORTION.
 
Trumps only witness officially changed his story so he is now useless for Trump, but juries are smart and they know that does not mean the other 9 witnesses were incorrect when they testified to the extortion.

I do admit that at this point it is difficult to prove this goes above Rudy to the President, but I have not seen all the evidence yet. I also expect Rudy would flip like a waffle given the chance, he is not one with much integrity. The other counts, the obstruction will be strong also.

Well, was the alleged victim of the QPQ aware there was a QPQ lol?
 
If push comes to shove, Rudy is going under the bus, there's noway that narcissistic Trump is going to take the heat for anything.
 
Hello Cypress,

Flailing all over the map.

Here is what you will also notice. Rightwing posters will dutifully memorize the new excuses Trump and Fox Noise give them, and start parroting them here relentlessly.

The bottom line - if Obama had solicited a foreign government to help undermine Mitt Romney in 2011, a GOP congress would have impeached him, removed him from office, and demanded he be criminally prosecuted for treason

More than 'solicited.'

It was extortion no less. The very definition of it.
 
Well, was the alleged victim of the QPQ aware there was a QPQ lol?

Not that it matters, but if he didn't he would have to be as dumb as a rock, and it isn't likely that a guy who got himself elected President of even the Ukraine fits that bill
 
Rudy is a pretty smart attorney, if Trump tries to push them under the bus I assume he has some strong evidence against Trump.
 
New impeachment defense emerges!
Like I said would happen just a couple of days ago, Today Trump debuted his new impeachment defense, I didn’t know there was a quid pro quo.
Which, clearly will be pitting him against Rudy, who pushed the quid pro quo. Will Rudy take one for Trump?

I've said it before and I'll say it again; I don't understand the "conventional wisdom" that Trump will somehow have the temperance for impeachment, and not end up turning on everyone like a raving lunatic.
 
It doesn't matter, his morons will insulate him from anything in a naked abuse of power, law be damned.
So I really don't care how many absurdities are exposed, or his repositioning. Frankly I have no idea why he even bothers to do so.
He should just say, fuck yes, I have a herd of morons and I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want and I'm going to tell you whatever
the fuck I feel like.

That is Republican rule of law.
 
Why are they still so focused on the whistleblower, the cat is already out of the bag?
 
"I didn't know there was a quid pro quo."


AKA

Rudy went rogue.


But...but...but what about all the time Trump claimed there was NO quid Pro Quo?

If, as he now claims he didn't know, then how could he know there was NO quid pro quo?
 
It is not about Trump. It is about the 37 percent of the electorate who will back him no matter how much he lies and what a horrible human being he is. He is not voting himself in. He probably does not vote. Or didn't until he ran. We all know if Trump is found guilty of worse than quid pro quo, it will not matter. Trump is not the problem, but a symptom of how many threw over American values. They think they are special because they are members of a cult that cannot see light. The only thing they see is Trump who does no wrong. The whole world is dark and dangerous and Daffy will save them.
 
Not that it matters, but if he didn't he would have to be as dumb as a rock, and it isn't likely that a guy who got himself elected President of even the Ukraine fits that bill

It doesn’t matter lol?

Are you sure Democrats should try and get this to the senate?
 
Why are they still so focused on the whistleblower, the cat is already out of the bag?

Because you have to go to The Washington Examiner to see about his associations: he was Biden’s man in Ukraine just to name one happy little coincidence.

And since it’s ‘The Washington Examiner’ it’s ‘ok to ignore it’.

Nifty how that works.
 
New impeachment defense emerges!

Like I said would happen just a couple of days ago, Today Trump debuted his new impeachment defense, I didn’t know there was a quid pro quo.

Which, clearly will be pitting him against Rudy, who pushed the quid pro quo. Will Rudy take one for Trump?

There is only one defense for Trump. The truth and the facts; something the Democratic Party of the Jackass desperately avoid at every opportunity.

You must enjoy looking like a dumbass every day. :rolleyes:
 
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