And the low IQ black boy proves my point.
What made America great before there was a need to MAGA
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And the low IQ black boy proves my point.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You don't have a democracy. It's called a ' democracy ' but you get a choice of two candidates who must be billionaires and each pays for the media content upon which the suspiciously-fraudulent ballot depends. Take away from the result those who didn't participate and those who weren't allowed to participate and you're left with a minority of people called ' voters ', a sort of exclusive club for the naive and the brainwashed who are conditioned to believe the ' results ' as announced by the establishment.
Anybody ' threatening ' THAT, buddy- is a fucking hero, not a traitor.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You ever heard of Ian Drury and the Arminii ?
Iolo/Penderyn
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'History should be divided into moments before and after July 4th, 1776. The creation of America introduced the world to the overthrow of kings and the birth to self-rule. It was a massive, sweeping transfer of power from a tiny handful of arbitrary monarchs to the rightful rulers--the people.'
Not very many of the people. I think they fell for noises to put slave-owning aristocrats in power. Our method was slower but, on the whole, more effective. It's important always to remember that capitalism isn't compatible with any real democracy, any more than slave estates were.
Not very many of the people. I think they fell for noises to put slave-owning aristocrats in power. Our method was slower but, on the whole, more effective. It's important always to remember that capitalism isn't compatible with any real democracy, any more than slave estates were.
Good thing we weren't built as a democracy then. The Founders learned from history (unlike liberals) and saw it as mob rule, as 51% trampling the rights of the other 49%, and as two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. That's why they set up a republic instead...and republics are entirely compatible with capitalism, as are democracies...because elevating the poor out of poverty in no way contradicts either system of governance. Your argument is blatantly stupid.
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And way to demonstrate my point about the petty, childish, and unreasonable left-wing tactic of dismissing one of the most important moments in all of human history just because it didn't simultaneously fix everything else that was wrong with society WHILE taking on the most powerful military on Earth.
Total horseshit propaganda, as usual.
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You deliberately misinterpreting his words to mean the exact opposite of what he said...based solely on your own refusal to comprehend that the mission being referred to was expressly the INITIAL INVASION and not the overall conflict...doesn't make your provably false talking point here any less of a lie. Democrats still provably invented a 100% BS controversy out of thin air and repeated it until it became so accepted that it ended up in history books as fact...while being provably false.
This is how Democrats avoid legitimate debate and having to win on a level playing field. Lie, cheat, and steal at every turn.
Try again.
Iolo/Penderyn
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How can they possibly be called democracies, since they entrench a tiny minority in power and deny everyone else a chance to influence events? When on earth did the rich, anywhere, ever, 'elevate the poor out of poverty', any more than fleas elevate people out of itching? Grow up!
Henry Ford, a very rich man, built cars that almost everyone could afford, America hating a Iolo sock. Rich men and women start companies that provide jobs for poor people and allow them to live the American dream.
The minority of office-holders are elected by a majority with the president elected by the majority of the Electoral College.
America, with its Constitutional Republican government has liberated millions of people around the globe...including your pissy little country.
evince
Truthmatters
when did the terms PURE DEMOCRACY and DIRECT DEMOCRACY emerge ?
when the founders of the USA created a hybrid government unlike any other ever seen to show the world what one man one vote looked like
the word democracy was changed forever
the only other democracies BEFORE THEM only allowed some to vote and everything was decided by those few who could vote
The founders of the USA changed the world FOREVER
and the word Democracy forever
The USA was that first Democracy
and still is
we are a democratic republic with a guiding constitution
its very telling that the republicans NOW HATE the word democracy
The cheating they do in elections is DESIGNED to not let every one vote
when the founders of the USA created a hybrid government unlike any other ever seen to show the world what one man one vote looked like
the word democracy was changed forever
the only other democracies BEFORE THEM only allowed some to vote and everything was decided by those few who could vote
The founders of the USA changed the world FOREVER
and the word Democracy forever
The USA was that first Democracy
and still is
we are a democratic republic with a guiding constitution
its very telling that the republicans NOW HATE the word democracy
The cheating they do in elections is DESIGNED to not let every one vote
evince
Truthmatters
go get the encyclopedia that says America is NOT A DEMOCRACY
Iolo/Penderyn
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This message is hidden because Earl, as he very well knows, is on your ignore list forever.
Iolo/Penderyn
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Not every country, after all, had other people's land to steal or millions of kidnapped people for forced labour. 'Freedom' was a bit limited, if you ask me.
Since the earliest days of colonial settlement, the Puritan settler Winthrop conceived of America as a “city on a hill,” a distinct place with a heaven-sent obligation to build a new and pure world. In the aftermath of the War for Independence, many citizens agreed with William Findley, a farmer from western Pennsylvania who would later serve in Congress, that Americans had “formed a character peculiar to themselves, and in some respects distinct from that of other nations.” During his travels across the young country in 1831 and 1832, the French statesman Alexis de Tocqueville concluded that “the position of America is therefore quite exceptional,” for indeed, many of the people whom he consulted believed, in the words of one of his Boston informants, that “there are no precedents for our history.”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/07/trump-american-exceptionalism-history-216253
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/07/trump-american-exceptionalism-history-216253
Me: We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Both are compatible with capitalism
You: They aren't democracies.
Me: WHAT aren't democracies? You're trailing off into incoherent nonsense again.
No one said the rich did that. Learn how to read. What was said was that CAPITALISM elevates the poor out of poverty. And if you take a first-year economics course, you learn that free market competition lowers prices, improves choice and access, and provides jobs. It's not rocket science to anyone but the economically illiterate low-IQ left.
Understanding basic economic realities is...immature? Um, sure. Sound logic there, Socrates.
evince
Truthmatters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_republic
In the US, the notion that a republic was a form of democracy was common from the time of its founding, and the concepts associated with representative democracy (and hence with a democratic republic) are suggested by John Adams (writing in 1784):
No determinations are carried, it is true, in a simple representative democracy, but by consent of the majority or their representatives.[6]
Historically, some inconsistency around the term is frequent. China claims to be the oldest of Asia's democratic republics, though its recent history of democratic process is largely linked only to Taiwan.[7] Likewise, Africa's oldest democratic republic, Liberia (formed in 1822), has had its political stability rocked by periodic violence and coups.[8]
In the US, the notion that a republic was a form of democracy was common from the time of its founding, and the concepts associated with representative democracy (and hence with a democratic republic) are suggested by John Adams (writing in 1784):
No determinations are carried, it is true, in a simple representative democracy, but by consent of the majority or their representatives.[6]
Historically, some inconsistency around the term is frequent. China claims to be the oldest of Asia's democratic republics, though its recent history of democratic process is largely linked only to Taiwan.[7] Likewise, Africa's oldest democratic republic, Liberia (formed in 1822), has had its political stability rocked by periodic violence and coups.[8]