Study debunks Democrat conspiracy theory about Russians stealing the election
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StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
This is a common Trumpcuck thing. After you get owned and mocked, just say everyone is a triggered snowflake.
Nope. They were all huge embarrassments to the people who promoted them.
Yes, yes they were.
And anyone who bought it believed and repeated the CONSPIRACY THEORY that someone other than Democrats was out in the streets targeting people for political violence. Comprehending it yet?
Fundamentally ignorant of the facts, as usual (are you sure you aren't a Democrat?). These are the top two results from the first page of a basic Google search.
We Weren’t Fools to Believe Jussie Smollett
Column: I believed Jussie Smollett, and I'm not sorry
What's EXTRA hilarious about you singling out this example is that it also happens to demonstrate the deep state's corruption especially well. Despite hard evidence that he staged it and lied to police, the biased, corrupt district attorney rushed in to inexplicably drop all the charges. Anyone else would have gone to jail. Abuses of power like this are the DEFINING ASPECT of the deep state.
As usual, way to think it through, genius.
crowonapost
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divide and conquer. Sow division. Russians need YOUR divide. You all do it well as democracy Americans.
Apparently YOU didn't. Because I said McCain and Romney WERE NOT conservatives. Hence, people not showing up to vote for them is NOT an indication that being conservative isn't enough...but that being conservative is MORE important, fucking idiot.
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This is a common Trumpcuck thing. After you get owned and mocked, just say everyone is a triggered snowflake.
If they're crying and lashing out like petty whiners, that's what they ARE. So yeah, of course you call them that. This is not the same as Democrats (you) calling everything and everyone bullshit names like fascist, racist, misogynist, secret Russian agents, and every other stupid ad hominem in the book to avoid real debate.
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crowonapost
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Sorry, 'democracy' 'Muricunts'
How would they quantify such a thing? The Russian bombarding specific people with emails hammering Hillary and backing Trumpy was not for nothing.. What that does is scrap the entire concept of political advertising and emailing or sending ads to anyone. I don't buy it. Why run TV ads? Why have rallies? Why do anything, their minds are made up.
The idea that they 5reacted with like-minded Trumpies would suggest they helped the Trump turnout.
crowonapost
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The National Academy of the Sciences disagrees with you, Captain Midol. Take your meds.
So many incredibly stupid fallacies to de-tangle here.
1) The U.S. "intel" was DNC-funded partisan propaganda. That is a matter of record at this point.
2) Acknowledging that the dossier was fake Democrat-orchestrated trash is not "pretending." Pretending is more like continuing to repeat the lies from this debunked propaganda LONG AFTER it was debunked (what YOU are doing).
3) They also tried to help Bernie Sanders and other liberals, whomever could be used to divide the country. As your particularly acute case of TDS demonstrates, it worked.
4) Repeating idiotic conspiracy theories doesn't make them less untrue. It just makes you look more absurd, sad, and desperate.
5) Democrats burn our flag, ban our Pledge, aid our enemies, attack our allies, insult our Anthem, smear our Founders, shred our Constitution, steal our elections, release terrorists and criminals into our back yards, and facilitate migrant invasions at every turn. The America-hating party of treason is just going to get laughed at for hilarious self-unawareness any time it attempts to suddenly pretend not to despise this country.
Try again, dishonest lunatic.
None of this contradicts the findings that the election wasn't actually influenced. Attempts are not success. Re-read the title of the thread and try comprehending the difference between the point being argued and the irrelevant point you are responding to.
Again, spinning some zero-impact Facebook posts as "extensive activity" still doesn't establish that the National Academy of the Sciences is wrong and that any actual influence occurred. Try again.
Why does the National Academy of the Sciences agree with Republicans in comprehending the difference between TRYING and SUCCEEDING at influencing elections?
McCain and Romney were utterly unprincipled, spineless, and treacherous to conservatives. Using them to refute the notion that conservatives will vote for whomever is conservative...is blatantly stupid.
This is you demonstrating your ignorance of his populist appeal. Obama elected Trump...by epitomizing the establishment elitist snobbery, condescension, lawlessness, and hatred of the American people that Washington, D.C. has become so infamous for. ANY of the primary candidates who would fearlessly confront such Constitution-shredding tyrants and traitors would have united conservatives.
As usual, stupid fallacies and shitty logic on every point.
As if on cue to demonstrate the point I just got done making about why voters were drawn to Trump.
big money shapes your opinion. nothing else. idiot.
This is the empty ad hominem fallacy of assigning nefarious motives to your opponent and attacking them personally to avoid the debate. Try again.
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But, let's all keep in mind that this occurred under Obama's watch and had NOTHING to do with Trump. Yet, even today, the PHONY media and political hacks like Adam Schiff continue to float the idea that he had colluded.
Not a single vote was changed as a result of efforts by foreign entities which have ALWAYS tried to influence the outcome of our elections, much like we do with foreign entities.
That is what the evidence shows, contrary to all the Democrat tantrums, shrieking and hysteria.
The problem is the IG report backs the Dems, not the rightys. Barr is disowning it because he has to. It says the investigation of Russia and Repubs was warranted. The IG is just doing his job in a fair and unslanted way. Nobody can make that claim about Barr. The Russians actually hacked voter machines. We Dems think that is criminally bad. rightys say you cannot prove they changed votes. That was the point afrter all, to enter, do what they wanted and leave without leaving tracks of what they did.
let's pretend the Russians did not change votes. Does that make it OK that they entered the machines of many states? Their intention was to make a crazy person president and it happened, It was a shocking result. Lets convince ourseleves that they did nothing. Trump asked the Russians to interfere in the election to help him and they did. They spent 1.5 million a month and worked hard to help Trump. But they were total failures....Yeah sure they were.
let's pretend the Russians did not change votes. Does that make it OK that they entered the machines of many states? Their intention was to make a crazy person president and it happened, It was a shocking result. Lets convince ourseleves that they did nothing. Trump asked the Russians to interfere in the election to help him and they did. They spent 1.5 million a month and worked hard to help Trump. But they were total failures....Yeah sure they were.
Provably false. It is a thoroughly established matter of record that Democrats colluded with Russia to manufacture a BS dossier and used it to illegally spy on their opponent during a major national election, and to invent hoax after hoax to undermine and overthrow a legitimately elected president. It would take a pretty neat magic trick to make all the evidence we already have proving that just disappear.
Besides, aren't you the same people who told us Mueller's "no collusion" report somehow vindicated Democrats by proving Trump innocent?
The evidence overwhelmingly shows that Barr is the first person in this entire three-year ordeal to apply the law and FBI rules as they have always been applied.
And no one's arguing otherwise, moron.
Which they failed at miserably, hence them getting busted.
And OF COURSE they claimed the vote selections weren't changed. The difference between gaining unlawful entry into election databases and actually changing prior selection entries (especially un-detected) is like the difference between stepping over a speed bump and climbing Mount Everest.
This is like saying, "Let's pretend the Moon landing were real."
Of course not. No one is arguing that, moron.
I appreciate you acknowledging that Bernie Sanders and the other liberals Russia helped are mentally unstable. But it wasn't mental instability they were after. It was divisiveness, which they succeeded at because Democrats were too biased and dishonest to care that they were knowingly regurgitating Russian propaganda. The collusion hoax succeeded in dividing the country because Democrats are partisan hacks who will say anything to hurt their opponents. If anyone is a "secret Russian agent," it's Democrats.
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Only to the elitist establishment snobs of the left. Everyone else comprehends that Obama and his Constitution-shredding swamp crooks and tyrants endlessly shredding the Constitution and stabbing the American people in the back is what elected Trump.
I think you misspelled Hillary. You do realize that DEMOCRATS asking Russia to dig up dirt on Trump is how we got the now-debunked dossier that these 24/7 smear campaigns, witch hunts and coup attempts are based on, right?
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Yes, unless you think the National Academy of the Sciences is a secret Russian agent as well.
This is known as "delusional wishful thinking."
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Translating from Liberal to English, what is meant by "corrected his error" is "posted a left-wing outlet making a meaningless distinction."
No one ever disputed that Russia TRIED to help liberals and Trump.
Again, you are responding to a point no one has made, Learn how to read, genius.
Says the person who can't comprehend what what plain-English arguments people are making.
Republican witnesses were not allowed, and only Democrat-approved witnesses who had been coached for weeks in advance were allowed to speak. That's the DEFINITION of cherry-picked you fucking moron.
Of course. Things that reveal your "evidence" to be complete horse shit tend to be seen as relevant to those being lied about.
Who argued that? Their perjury and total lack of actual evidence ABSOLUTELY matters. It's how we establish that this "investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" concept is completely baseless garbage (if common sense didn't already tell you that). Pointing out that they're biased, disgruntled hacks with no evidence in no way implies that they don't matter.
Try again there, Socrates.
Of course. Fighting back against fraudulent "coup" attempts (as Democrats themselves described what they were doing) is the only sensible option.
Pointing out that this latest show trial produced only hand-picked, coached "witnesses" who witnessed nothing...about something that isn't even a crime in the first place...is irrelevant? Um...sure. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
Say the only people denying the accused the right to face his accuser, the right to see the (total absence of) "evidence" against him (as usual, hence the term 'witch hunt'), the right to a speedy trial, etc., while failing to comprehend that a "witness's" feelings about what someone might have said to someone else is NOT eyewitness evidence at all and would be laughed out of any courtroom.
Say the people who have produced literally zero evidence and still to this day repeat the debunked lie that Trump colluded with Russia.
Again we see that whatever Democrats accuse someone of is what only Democrats are actually doing.
This is what went down, folks: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...s-stealing-the-election&p=3374655#post3374655
1. The quote from your source belies your conclusion, as it points out the ambiguity of the very article itself.
2. Army repeats the lie that GOP witnesses were not allowed.....a misleading lie, as the GOP wanted to violate the Whistle blower protection law they themselves voted in favor of. Also, the GOP wanted the Bidens' on the stand, which has NOTHING to do with what Trump and Giuliani were pushing. https://apnews.com/54c28d1371f944bfae8addd0269cef67
3. Army accuses the eyewitnesses of perjury.....he has no basis beyond his beliefs and opinions for that accusation....and the GOP cross examination COULD NOT PROVE PERJURY. Army is just blathering like a Fox News flunky.
4. Army moronic and simplistic explanation of Trump's non compliance WITH THE LAW as decreed by the Constitution is pathetic. Trump officials refusing subpoena's is a crime warranting arrest, but since Barr is Trump's bitch, that won't happen.
5. Army thinks parroting the Orange Oaf's talking points makes them legit. Newsflash Army: the whistleblower act protects the whistleblower from reprisal...if their charges are found without merit...nothing is done. Obviously, this was not the case with the Orange Oaf (i.e., Giuliani, Cooper, Hill). And since Trump was given the chance for legal representation during the hearings and REFUSED such, bitching about it is just dumb.
6. Army once again parroting one myopic mantra, and ignoring all else. Laugh, clown, laugh.
Ambiguity? The article specifically lays out that there is zero impact detected from the activities of such trolls. That's the opposite of ambiguous, genius.
Smear people as lying for telling the truth. You've learned from your fellow Democrat witch hunters well.
Nadler dismisses GOP witness requests
Obama retaliated against and silenced witnesses. That's why whistle blower protections were necessary. That's nothing like Trump having a basic universal right to confront his accuser...an accuser with zero protection under that law.
Try again.
Sure, if by "has NOTHING to do with" it, you mean it is the centerpiece of the case.
Step 1: Biden does incredibly, obviously corrupt things.
Step 2: Trump wants Biden's corruption investigated, as required by law.
Step 3: Democrats feign outrage over a total non-controversy and demand an explanation.
Step 4: Republicans ask to put Biden on the stand to show why they wanted an investigation.
Step 5: Democrats insist the centerpiece of the Republicans' reason for wanting an investigation "has NOTHING to do with" their show trial.
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You never asked for proof. You just made a false assumption and then falsely accused others of lying for telling the truth. Seeing a pattern here?
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Example: Fiona Hill...the partisan left-wing Brookings activist who lied under oath about Ukraine's PROVEN, WELL-DOCUMENTED collusion with Democrats in 2016...was also caught lying about what she was fighting for the entire time she was involved in Ukraine so she could falsely demonize Trump. Here's the proof in her own words, by her own admission.
1) You should take a grade school course on how to use apostrophes correctly.
2) Obama's officials refuse to comply with subpoenas at every turn, even to the point of using Bleachbit and hammers to destroy evidence under subpoena: Perfectly fine, nothing to see here. Trump goes to court to fight a debunked witch hunt the legitimate way: That's obstruction! Because muh feelings are more important than the facts!
Mueller was Hillary's bitch. The moment someone comes along who isn't openly and unmistakably rigging everything for one side, THAT'S when you cry foul, smearing objectivity as bias, despite all the evidence showing the opposite.