The Democratic party is the enemy

[Legion]

Do you mean, energy independence and deregulations? Then you ask: At what expense to the environment?

The answer to your question is....none/no expense to the environment. The USA leads the world in the reduction of carbon pollution.

 

[MAGA MAN]

So the Trump fracking plan of millions of acres in California, including near National Forest causes no ills toward the environment?

Correct.

 

[Charoite]

Do you mean, energy independence and deregulations? Then you ask: At what expense to the environment?

The answer to your question is....none/no expense to the environment. The USA leads the world in the reduction of carbon pollution.

What a load of crap.

 

[Into the Night]

Energy dependence & deregulation at what expense to the environment?

Define 'pollution'. You are making a void argument fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

What a load of crap.

Carbon is not a pollutant. It is an element of the periodic table. It is part of nature.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a naturally occurring gas in the atmosphere. It is critical to life on Earth, since it allows photosynthesis to produce carbohydrates from it.

 

[MSgt]

The Democratic party establishment must be destroyed. They are the enemy. I will not vote for Joe. Joe is not better than Trump. I will not participate in your stupid liberal sports competition. I'm fucking done with it. Bernie was weak, that's why he lost. AOC is weak and already corrupted.

Only revolution is the way forward. The Democratic party is the enemy.

How is AOC corrupted (not counting her literal corruption)?

 

[BattleofHodow]

Define 'pollution'. You are making a void argument fallacy.

Of course Fracking pollutes.

https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

 

[MAGA MAN]

Of course Fracking pollutes.

https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/health/case_studies/hydrofracking_w.html

No it doesn't.

 

[AProudLefty]

The Democratic party establishment must be destroyed. They are the enemy. I will not vote for Joe. Joe is not better than Trump. I will not participate in your stupid liberal sports competition. I'm fucking done with it. Bernie was weak, that's why he lost. AOC is weak and already corrupted.

Only revolution is the way forward. The Democratic party is the enemy.

 

[BattleofHodow]

No it doesn't.

Bahaha. Yes, it really does.

 

[Bill]

The Democratic party establishment must be destroyed. They are the enemy. I will not vote for Joe. Joe is not better than Trump. I will not participate in your stupid liberal sports competition. I'm fucking done with it. Bernie was weak, that's why he lost. AOC is weak and already corrupted.

Only revolution is the way forward. The Democratic party is the enemy.

Bite your tongue...

I have, sadly, dismissed her/them from the beginning, while she came in swinging, the trump & media inflated caricatures were never going to live up to the hype...

The party system is a process, a winnowing process, those that don't play along~the chaff are left to the wind....

 

[MAGA MAN]

Bahaha. Yes, it really does.

No it doesn't. Fracking is nothing more than a controlled explosion inside a drilling cavity to break up the rock around it so it becomes more permeable. It's been used since dynamite was invented for water wells. Any chemicals from the explosion are simply flushed out of the well when it first starts to produce.

 

[Bill]

Dems & Repubs the same 2 headed snake.

lol

 

[Bill]

So the Trump fracking plan of millions of acres in California, including near National Forest causes no ills toward the environment?

@ current prices they can't turn a profit, not even close..

 

[BattleofHodow]

No it doesn't. Fracking is nothing more than a controlled explosion inside a drilling cavity to break up the rock around it so it becomes more permeable. It's been used since dynamite was invented for water wells. Any chemicals from the explosion are simply flushed out of the well when it first starts to produce.

Live Science must be wrong then. ( Rolls eyes)

https://www.livescience.com/34464-what-is-fracking.html

 

[BattleofHodow]

Carbon is not a pollutant. It is an element of the periodic table. It is part of nature.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a naturally occurring gas in the atmosphere. It is critical to life on Earth, since it allows photosynthesis to produce carbohydrates from it.

Its about how much & where it goes. Many natural things also cause toxicity in high amounts.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Live Science must be wrong then. ( Rolls eyes)

https://www.livescience.com/34464-what-is-fracking.html

Yeah I'm sure that it is. I learned early into my career as an ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER that politics dictates basically any large project and there is always an opposition group that will lie, cheat, distort facts and falsify data.

If you want to debate this with me you need to understand something about the process and argue the actual science instead of relying on "appeal to authority".

 

[MAGA MAN]

Its about how much & where it goes. Many natural things also cause toxicity in high amounts.

True. The corollary is also true. Many things thought of as toxic do no harm in small amounts.

 

[Charoite]

Its about how much & where it goes. Many natural things also cause toxicity in high amounts.

Apparently the right wants to create a planet for plants and not humans. Carbon Dioxide is natural but only in certain amounts. Plants, in turn, convert the stuff to oxygen until cross-cutting finally destroys them. They can't have it both ways. If they want to be able to release the gases they need to give up the destruction and overuse of what filters it out.

 

[a777pilot]

So, fracking causes no pollution or environmental destruction?

Interesting, because all the evidence says the exact opposite.

What evidence?