A little information regarding our current crisis.

Althea said:
No. No you can't.
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Yes.....I can

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

Pull quote from the article below. They admit it.

Three thousand more people died in New York City between March 11 and April 13 than would have been expected during the same time period in an ordinary year, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, the commissioner of the city Health Department, said in an interview. While these so-called excess deaths were not explicitly linked to the virus, they might not have happened had the outbreak not occurred, in part because it overwhelmed the normal health care system.


Now how would you like to concede?

Option 1: Just admit that you got fisted?
Option 2: Continue to fight on and say the article doesn't say what it says?
Option 3: Call the source a "right wing rag"?
Option 4: Slink away never to return to your thread again?
 
Same thing could be said about pneumonia! It is a well established fact that the number one cause of death from the Corona Virus is Pneumonia.

And the official cause of death from pneumonia is..... wait for it...........you guessed it.........................................................CARDIAC ARREST!

And it is also a well-known fact that RURAL America is saturated with some of the most extreme Right-Wing and Republican led local governments. So you can bet your ass that when a Retirement Center encounters deaths in their counties, or an elder is found dead at their residence, who died from this virus, some politically motivated Coroner in that county is going to write up the cause of death as Cardiac Arrest to help cover for this president- and to cover up the fact that the virus has spread to even their little remote Right-Wing Podunk little havens.

And when they do that it is a disgrace as well as a danger to their own communities to not even know the virus is spreading there. It is a well known fact that there is a concerted effort to deny that the virus exists in Rural America because it just plays into the president's and Fox News's original narrative that this virus is a hoax.

You cannot trust Donald Trump- and you can not trust these extreme Right-Wing followers of Donald Trump!
 
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Teflon Don said:
Yes.....I can

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

Pull quote from the article below. They admit it.

Three thousand more people died in New York City between March 11 and April 13 than would have been expected during the same time period in an ordinary year, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, the commissioner of the city Health Department, said in an interview. While these so-called excess deaths were not explicitly linked to the virus, they might not have happened had the outbreak not occurred, in part because it overwhelmed the normal health care system.


Now how would you like to concede?

Option 1: Just admit that you got fisted?
Option 2: Continue to fight on and say the article doesn't say what it says?
Option 3: Call the source a "right wing rag"?
Option 4: Slink away never to return to your thread again?
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You proved nothing
 
Althea said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I know! That's why I almost fell off my chair when I read that it's primarily up to the discretion of the guy filing the paper work to determine if COVID-19 is the culprit and the guidelines are at best vague on some points. Scary.
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The virus ultimately causes organ failure. In some, this will manifest as a heart attack. So...contrary to trump's claim, people who died of a heart attack did indeed die from the virus.
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Ahh, but you didn't read the fine print (as it were)…..whether the person test positive or not, it's left up to the discretion of the attending physician BASED ON OBSERVATION ONLY how to log the symptoms. So the records are NOT accurate...more so than we think.

As for Dump, he's just looking out for the bottom line$$$ and his "legacy"...so inadvertently, like a broken clock, he can be right for the wrong reasons.
 
Althea said:
Originally Posted by Teflon Don
It’s why left wing states are faking their numbers so they can ask for more federal money

It’s also why Nazi Pelousy is trying to sneak SALT back into bills because left wing states want to increase taxes but don’t want to pay them and want the other states to subsidize it

The chines virus reaction by leftists is a scam and a hoax
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And why Nazi states are under reporting cases so they can go to the beach?
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I don't even entertain the sheer moronic blathering of TD … I posted the information to show that while indeed there is a virus that is killing people, there is a LOT of incompetence driven by the arrogance, the need to control for the worship of the almighty dollar. In other words, information to DEAL with this situation BETTER. There's enough blame to go around.
 
iewitness said:
Bill Gates: superhero or supervillain??. Everyone MUST judge Bill Gates...
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He wants to corner the market and be a little king....like Trump, he'll allude to anything that may get him that but leaves a LOT of wiggle room to back out if things get too hairy.

Anything to say regarding the OP?
 
Althea said:
So...if you have a pre condition that has been managed, but it becomes life threatening due to the virus, what's the argument here?
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No argument...just pointing out that the near hysteria of the MSM messages allude to this virus killing you out right regardless of your medical history....that's just not the case.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's a little information from the Center for Disease Control regarding how deaths that are "related" to COVID-19 are logged by medical professionals. Interesting, to say the least:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...0MYGuaoAc-W6_aobViSrAKVXDzxjT0EV-5Jlh1VGMjcRk
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I would like an explanation on how China, the third world shit hole epicenter of this virus, can have far fewer cases and deaths than 6 of the worlds largest democracies.

The US has ten times the cases and deaths? I am calling Bulls Shit on this one. ;)
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You have a little bit of everything under the sun happening right now during this crisis.

You have retirement centers that are not even able to test their tenants for the virus, just as you have some retirement centers that are not even transferring people to the hospital with the symptoms of the virus, where the patients are dying and not being counted as a corona death.

And you have some retirement centers covering up the deaths of their tenants for fear of being sued for negligence. Several are under investigation, while one was caught hiding 17 bodies and without even contacting the proper authorities or families about the deaths.

This is insane people! Many of these old folks have no families that claim them anyway.

Some of these people are found dead in their homes, because they caught the virus, and died before seeking help or help arrived, and they are not being tested for the virus- for all kinds of reasons- lack of tests- shortage of tests- no one cares to test- you name it- everything under the sun.

So we will probably never ever get a true count of the dead caused by this virus.

Yet, Fox News is telling people the liberals are faking the death counts for political reasons! WTF?

If the virus is not bad enough, we not only are dealing with the people that are sick with the virus, we are having to deal with people that are sick in the head and trying to use this virus for their own political hate agendas.

Yes, our country is sick- sick with a virus- and political sickness.
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Translation:

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Phantasmal said:
Cordero, who has been in the hospital since March 31, was being treated with blood thinners to help relieve clotting in his leg, but doctors had to stop the medication because it was causing internal bleeding, the Associated Press reported. On Saturday, the decision was made to amputate, Kloots said, according to the AP.

He says he will dance, again.
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They attributed this to Covid. :rolleyes:
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Same thing could be said about pneumonia! It is a well established fact that the number one cause of death from the Corona Virus is Pneumonia.

And the official cause of death from pneumonia is..... wait for it...........you guessed it.........................................................CARDIAC ARREST!

And it is also a well-known fact that RURAL America is saturated with some of the most extreme Right-Wing and Republican led local governments. So you can bet your ass that when a Retirement Center encounters deaths in their counties, or an elder is found dead at their residence, who died from this virus, some politically motivated Coroner in that county is going to write up the cause of death as Cardiac Arrest to help cover for this president- and to cover up the fact that the virus has spread to even their little remote Right-Wing Podunk little havens.

And when they do that it is a disgrace as well as a danger to their own communities to not even know the virus is spreading there. It is a well known fact that there is a concerted effort to deny that the virus exists in Rural America because it just plays into the president's and Fox News's original narrative that this virus is a hoax.

You cannot trust Donald Trump- and you can not trust these extreme Right-Wing followers of Donald Trump!
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Hip waders wont be enough to wade through your bullshit; we're gonna need a lifeboat. :rolleyes:

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Taichiliberal said:
Ahh, but you didn't read the fine print (as it were)…..whether the person test positive or not, it's left up to the discretion of the attending physician BASED ON OBSERVATION ONLY how to log the symptoms. So the records are NOT accurate...more so than we think.

As for Dump, he's just looking out for the bottom line$$$ and his "legacy"...so inadvertently, like a broken clock, he can be right for the wrong reasons.
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You were good until you engaged in your Trump rant. ;) You get 1/2 thanks.
 
Taichiliberal said:
He wants to corner the market and be a little king....like Trump, he'll allude to anything that may get him that but leaves a LOT of wiggle room to back out if things get too hairy.

Anything to say regarding the OP?
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Another pile of stupid. It never takes long for even the most thoughtful leftist to go FULL retard when it comes to Trump.
 
Taichiliberal said:
No argument...just pointing out that the near hysteria of the MSM messages allude to this virus killing you out right regardless of your medical history....that's just not the case.
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Of course it isn't, but thousands of at risk people lead perfectly normal lives. This virus will kill them. The bigger point is that those who it doesn't kill, are still going to spread it to people who will die if we don't keep people separated.
 
Althea said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
No argument...just pointing out that the near hysteria of the MSM messages allude to this virus killing you out right regardless of your medical history....that's just not the case.
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Of course it isn't, but thousands of at risk people lead perfectly normal lives. This virus will kill them. The bigger point is that those who it doesn't kill, are still going to spread it to people who will die if we don't keep people separated.
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And yet the death rate is STILL nowhere near what past influenzas have wrought upon the USA. Proper preparation, preventative measures, endeavors to put forth Treatment before a vaccine, and accountability to failure and incompetence so it doesn't happen again will save the day.
 
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