Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin (NYT)

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Neither John Antaramian, the mayor of Kenosha, nor Jim Kreuser, the county executive, responded to requests for comment. (The positions are nonpartisan, but both men previously served in the State Assembly as Democrats.)

“There’s people running all over with guns — it’s like some Wild West town,” Mr. Biehn said. “We are just waiting here like sitting ducks waiting to get picked off.”

He added: “It’s chaos — everybody is afraid.”

Mr. Trump, he said, “was not my man,” but now he is grateful he is president.


He said he seemed to understand in a way that other politicians did not.

“There’s nobody fighting back,” he said. “Nobody is paying attention to what’s going on.”

Scott Haight, who was boarding up a line of businesses in a Kenosha strip mall on Tuesday, said he blamed Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes, a Democrat, for what he said was irresponsibly stirring up emotion. (On Monday, Mr. Barnes said the shooting “wasn’t an accident.”)

“It’s like ‘What, are you trying to burn our city down?’” Mr. Haight said.

Mr. Haight, 59, said he was a “lifelong Democrat” but had decided not to vote this year.

“It’s not worth it,” he said. “One’s as bad as the other.”

Priscella Gazda, a waitress at a pizza restaurant in Kenosha, was having the opposite reaction. She said she had voted only once in her life — for Mr. Obama in 2008. Her son has Type 1 diabetes and was hoping for health insurance.

“I’m not the one who would ever vote,” she said.

But after the chaos in her town, this year is different.

“I am going to vote for Trump,” she said. “He seems to be more about the American people and what we need.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/kenosha-wisconsin-trump.html#click=https://t.co/ZVNixkn5FW
 
Nothing makes a conservative out of a liberal faster than being mugged because your Democrat politicians defunded the police...
 
Awesome. How many national percentage points do you think that will swing? What about if you throw in all the Russian cocksuckers too, will that increase the percentage?
yu fucking idiot.
National numbers aren't significant.. WI is a battleground state
 
Nothing makes a conservative out of a liberal faster than being mugged because your Democrat politicians defunded the police...
Trump needs to build up the rural vote - I imagine Milwaukee is just more dumb for Dems - but it's a population center.

Kenosha was very close last time -significant the swing
 
yu fucking idiot.
National numbers aren't significant.. WI is a battleground state

You are sooooo sensitive. Okay, how many percentage points in Wisconsin...along with the Russian cocksuckers too if you know the answers.

Consider what Buddha has to say: "You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger."
 
Nothing makes a conservative out of a liberal faster than being mugged because your Democrat politicians defunded the police...

That's my view too. Some people learn by listening, reasoning and educating themselves. Others have to go to the School of Hard Knocks and learn for themselves. Life goes on.
 
Awesome. How many national percentage points do you think that will swing? What about if you throw in all the Russian cocksuckers too, will that increase the percentage?

And that right there is how Dem supporters always make their mistakes. Politics isnt national. In fact national doesnt mean shit. Politics is local,.... specifically the swing states. Which Wisconsin is. ;)
 
And that right there is how Dem supporters always make their mistakes. Politics isnt national. In fact national doesnt mean shit. Politics is local,.... specifically the swing states. Which Wisconsin is. ;)

Probably. I don't know. All I was asking was for data on how much this swung the votes be it state or national.

It's funny to see you all riled up like you're really on the ball. :)
 
You are sooooo sensitive. Okay, how many percentage points in Wisconsin...along with the Russian cocksuckers too if you know the answers.

Consider what Buddha has to say: "You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger."
English. i don't speak gibberish or Russian for that matter
if you are asking percentage points go to RCP - you can see the trends. This story is significant in that Kenosha was very close last time, and ( i think) law and order is now a main election issue
 
English. i don't speak gibberish or Russian for that matter
if you are asking percentage points go to RCP - you can see the trends. This story is significant in that Kenosha was very close last time, and ( i think) law and order is now a main election issue

What in "You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger" do you not understand?

Sorry if I was speaking over your head: The thread is about chaos in Wisconsin flipping Democrats to vote Republican. I'm asking for a percentage of flips to discuss if it will make a difference. Numbers are important when trying to predict the outcome of race, be it dogs, cockroaches or politicians.

As the links below show, Wisconsin is favored to vote Biden along with their 10 electoral votes. Of course Illinois is expected to go hard left with their 20 votes. If Wisconsin can be flipped red, obviously that's good for the Republicans which is why I was asking about percentages to you. How many votes or what percentage of votes in Wisconsin do you think will flip to Republican so Wisconsin will vote Trump?

This link gives Biden a 6/7 (85%) chance of taking Wisconsin: https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

This link gives Biden a 68% chance: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/wisconsin/

This link simply favors Biden: https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-forecast-predictions/
 
What in "You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger" do you not understand?

Sorry if I was speaking over your head: The thread is about chaos in Wisconsin flipping Democrats to vote Republican. I'm asking for a percentage of flips to discuss if it will make a difference. Numbers are important when trying to predict the outcome of race, be it dogs, cockroaches or politicians.

As the links below show, Wisconsin is favored to vote Biden along with their 10 electoral votes. Of course Illinois is expected to go hard left with their 20 votes. If Wisconsin can be flipped red, obviously that's good for the Republicans which is why I was asking about percentages to you. How many votes or what percentage of votes in Wisconsin do you think will flip to Republican so Wisconsin will vote Trump?

This link gives Biden a 6/7 (85%) chance of taking Wisconsin: https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

This link gives Biden a 68% chance: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/wisconsin/

This link simply favors Biden: https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-forecast-predictions/

lol.,, you fancy yourself if you think id be anger at you. no more then I am at any #never trump.
You're foolish - Dems will drop you like a hot potato if Bidens wins -but no anger unless you are a warmonger (specifically prohibited in Buddhism)

How many vote? do you mean raw numbers?? how would anyone figure that out?
 
What in "You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger" do you not understand?

Sorry if I was speaking over your head: The thread is about chaos in Wisconsin flipping Democrats to vote Republican. I'm asking for a percentage of flips to discuss if it will make a difference. Numbers are important when trying to predict the outcome of race, be it dogs, cockroaches or politicians.

As the links below show, Wisconsin is favored to vote Biden along with their 10 electoral votes. Of course Illinois is expected to go hard left with their 20 votes. If Wisconsin can be flipped red, obviously that's good for the Republicans which is why I was asking about percentages to you. How many votes or what percentage of votes in Wisconsin do you think will flip to Republican so Wisconsin will vote Trump?

This link gives Biden a 6/7 (85%) chance of taking Wisconsin: https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president

This link gives Biden a 68% chance: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/wisconsin/

This link simply favors Biden: https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-forecast-predictions/

lol.,, you fancy yourself if you think id be anger at you. no more then I am at any #never trump.
You're foolish - Dems will drop you like a hot potato if Bidens wins -but no anger unless you are a warmonger (specifically prohibited in Buddhism)

How many vote? do you mean raw numbers?? how would anyone figure that out?
I think the language barrier is at work here because it's pretty standard English. I know too many people are math challenged, but even dumbasses know something odds when it comes to betting on dice, football or political races. The fact you don't understand what I've asked three times now indicates a mental incomprehension issue or simply a language barrier. Since you seem intelligent enough to calculate fractions and decimals, I think it's more likely to be a language problem. This has come up before with you/anatta.

Yes, the numbers. That is how anyone can figure it out. I'm certain both the Trump and Biden campaigns are running their numbers in order to identify and plan for weak or strong spots. The fact this is all beyond you is interesting, but I'm certain most Americans on this forum know exactly what I'm asking.
 
Parents condemn the violence.

Jacob Blake’s parents are disgusted by the BLM riots across America, expresses respect for Trump

 
Awesome. How many national percentage points do you think that will swing? What about if you throw in all the Russian cocksuckers too, will that increase the percentage?

The NYT is somewhat limited, given its reputation for fake news.
 
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