Dems to grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico

[Walt]

Dems can’t grant statehood to anyone.

Congress can admit any state they want (except as part of the already existing states without their permission). Live with it.

Technically, Democrats could grant statehood to 50 new states, all very Blue. Then Democrats can do whatever they want.

If you unshackle us from precedence, it is amazing the things we can do.

 

[Legion]

So then why didn't the founders make it a state?

They made New York the capital city. Then they moved to Philadelphia.

Then, in 1791, because the DEMOCRATS who dominated the slave states whined, they moved to "neutral" territory ceded by Maryland and Virginia and created the District of Columbia, which included the pre-existing settlements of Georgetown and Alexandria. The City of Washington was founded in 1791 to serve as the new national capital.

Congress passed the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1801 which officially organized the district and placed the entire territory under the exclusive control of the federal government.

In 1846, Congress returned the land originally ceded by Virginia, including the city of Alexandria under pressure from racist DEMOCRATS. Alexandria was a major market in the American slave trade, and DEMOCRATS feared that abolitionists (soon to form the GOP) in Congress would end slavery.

In 1871, after the DEMOCRAT traitors had been defeated, Congress created a single municipal government for the remaining portion of the district.

The U.S. Constitution provides for a federal district under the exclusive jurisdiction of the U.S. Congress, and the district is therefore not a part of any U.S. state.

 

[Legion]

It is amazing the things we can do.

Like winning elections?

 

[LV426]

Somebody's lying here, and it isn't me

Are you sure about that? You're saying COVID is no big deal, but even Trump said it was on tape in secret, while saying the opposite every day in front of the cameras.

Had Trump not lied about COVID, we wouldn't be in this mess today.

But he can't help himself from lying; after all, you can't expect a dung beetle to do anything other than haul dung.

The true failure here is yours; you were dumb enough to believe Trump and stupid enough to get conned into toiling his baggage.

200,000+ dead thanks to you.

 

[Legion]

Well, the Left has never been about long-term stability of a nation but rather short-term gain. That is, they assess things by What's in it for me?

And then they complain (as they are doing right now) when the GOP uses the rules that DEMOCRATS made to accomplish their own politcal goals.

I suspect that what they want is to the power to exempt only their own party from all rules, precedents, and requirements.

I also believe they want one-party rule, so they can do what they want with no opposition.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Without shutdowns or mask mandates, how do you stop the spread?

By taking reasonable precautions on a personal level using personal responsibility. If you feel sick, stay home. If the elderly are vulnerable, segregate those in nursing homes from the public at large as much as possible and warn others who are vulnerable to it. If you are really worried about it, wear your mask--don't force your crap down everyone else's throat though. If crowds and tight places like aircraft are more likely to cause contagion, stay away.

The shutdowns and mandatory masks, social distancing, etc., is paranoid overkill of the sort insane safety freaks always push. Better to destroy the lives of hundreds that we might save one than take a chance...

And we could have simply paid everyone to stay home for six weeks. Doing so would have meant open schools and stadiums this fall. Sadly, we can't do any of that safely.

People aren't going to go out if they don't feel safe.

We could have simply relied on people to do the right thing and take personal responsibility for their actions, but we are living more and more in a society that relies on a nanny state government to take care of things. It's the lazy and stupid way to do stuff.

Okay, if a person doesn't feel safe and they don't go out, how is that my problem? I go out all the time. I only wear a useless mask for show when it will avoid issues with a store owner or the like. Otherwise, screw the mask. If I have the sniffles or whatever, I'll stay home until it clears up. That's the responsible thing to do.

This is what you get when you have a glut of liars...err, lawyers (sorry I get those two mixed up)... a nanny state government, and a society that won't take personal responsibility seriously:

(Cereal bowl for kids)

The level of stupid needed to not figure out those things on the warning labels is higher than found in nature. You have to try to be that stupid. Normally nature kills off that kind of stupid. We have a society that tries to protect and spread it. That's a big problem...

 

[Walt]

they would have better luck making Los Angeles County a state.......

Maybe we should split California into North California, and South California.

 

[Grokmaster]

Republicans will never get to play senate hardball destruction of rules and norms again.

Republican court stacking will backfire.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...gambit-may-backfire-heres-how/?outputType=amp

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.[4]



SO MUCH FOR "DC , THE STATE".

 

[LV426]

By taking reasonable precautions on a personal level using personal responsibility. If you feel sick, stay home. If the elderly are vulnerable, segregate those in nursing homes from the public at large as much as possible and warn others who are vulnerable to it. If you are really worried about it, wear your mask--don't force your crap down everyone else's throat though. If crowds and tight places like aircraft are more likely to cause contagion, stay away..

Most people infected with COVID are asymptomatic...so...everything you just said above is pointless and dumb.

And we tried your approach in many states, and now those states are seeing massive COVID spikes, just as predicted.

Also, the bold is what you accuse Cuomo of doing in NY.

 

[Grokmaster]

SLEAZOCRATS... LIKE ALL CHEATERS, WHEN THEY CAN'T WIN, CHANGE THE RULES....

 

[LV426]

The shutdowns and mandatory masks, social distancing, etc., is paranoid overkill of the sort insane safety freaks always push. Better to destroy the lives of hundreds that we might save one than take a chance...

Trump is literally on tape telling you COVID is deadly, passed through the air, and worse than the flu.

Every other country managed just fine. But we didn't. That's entirely because of you.

 

[Legion]

Without shutdowns or mask mandates, how do you stop the spread?

You can't stop the spread of a virus with lockdowns and compulsory masking. You can only limit the number of cases with vaccination.

We could have simply paid everyone to stay home for six weeks.

We could have "paid everyone to stay home for six weeks", eh? Explain how essential services would have been continued, and explain where the funding would have come from.

Naturally, I'll understand if you can't.

Doing so would have meant open schools and stadiums this fall. Sadly, we can't do any of that safely.

So you say, yet leftists can apparently protest and riot safely. Can you explain?

People aren't going to go out if they don't feel safe.

So don't go out.

 

[LV426]

We could have simply relied on people to do the right thing and take personal responsibility for their actions, but we are living more and more in a society that relies on a nanny state government to take care of things. It's the lazy and stupid way to do stuff.

You don't seem to understand what "personal responsibility" means. It doesn't mean "look out for myself".

Also, if you're asymptomatic, you don't know if you're infected. But asymptomatics are spreaders. So everything you're saying is predicated on the individual knowing they are infected. The only way to know that is to get tested. At the beginning of this crisis, we weren't doing any testing. That's why it spread everywhere.

Testing has declined even as the positive rates on those tests are increasing.

So we're never going to get out of this by doing things your stupid, selfish, incredibly lazy way.

 

[Legion]

Trump is literally on tape telling you COVID is deadly, passed through the air, and worse than the flu.

Is that so? Let's hear this "tape".

Every other country managed just fine.

Did they? Who told you that?

But we didn't.

Didn't we?

I'm OK, and you haven't died, have you? I'm actually sad about that, though.

That's entirely because of you.

It is? Prove it.

 

[LV426]

Okay, if a person doesn't feel safe and they don't go out, how is that my problem?

You're the one trying to convince everyone that things are fine and we can resume normal economic activity, not me.

So it's YOUR PROBLEM to solve. Which you can't do because you know how deadly COVID is.

So far, you've offered nothing by way of a solution. You lazily cast it off as "personal responsibility" but that's just your lazy way of saying you're too lazy or too dumb to think of solutions so you're just not gonna try.

That's indicative of your character. A quitter.

 

[LV426]

We could have simply relied on people to do the right thing and take personal responsibility for their actions, but we are living more and more in a society that relies on a nanny state government to take care of things. It's the lazy and stupid way to do stuff.

I'll keep this in mind the next time Trump bails out his constituency, like he did with the farmer trash bailout.

 

[LV426]

I go out all the time. I only wear a useless mask for show when it will avoid issues with a store owner or the like. Otherwise, screw the mask. If I have the sniffles or whatever, I'll stay home until it clears up. That's the responsible thing to do.

What if you're asymptomatic?

Then you're just a diseased vessel spreading your disgusting germs everywhere. So you're not even helping...you're making things worse ON PURPOSE.

 

[Legion]

You don't seem to understand what "personal responsibility" means.

Doesn't he?

It doesn't mean "look out for myself".

Did anyone say that it does?

Also, if you're asymptomatic, you don't know if you're infected. But asymptomatics are spreaders. So everything you're saying is predicated on the individual knowing they are infected. The only way to know that is to get tested. At the beginning of this crisis, we weren't doing any testing. That's why it spread everywhere. Testing has declined even as the positive rates on those tests are increasing.

Is that so? Does that mean you might get infected and die? Thanks for keeping hope alive.

So we're never going to get out of this by doing things your stupid, selfish, incredibly lazy way.

Think not? But electing a senile leftist with magically make the "crisis" disappear?

 

[LV426]

This is what you get when you have a glut of liars...err, lawyers (sorry I get those two mixed up)... a nanny state government, and a society that won't take personal responsibility seriously.

You don't seem to know what "personal responsibility" even is; you'll say it's one thing, and then as soon as I hold it to scrutiny, you'll say it's something else.

 

[Legion]

What if you're asymptomatic? Then you're just a diseased vessel spreading your disgusting germs everywhere. So you're not even helping...you're making things worse ON PURPOSE.

Better lock yourself up in a closet. The Wu Flu cooties might get on you.