So is Trump going full dictator?

archives said:
It ain’t about spying, besides, just like 2016, he probably has the Russians doing that for him, but rather the future of America’s democracy

If you spend five years endlessly attacking the integrity of the election system, especially with no concern regarding the validity of your attacks, some Americans are going to lose confidence and faith in that method of selecting their leaders, and we will no longer be a working democracy. Given Trump’s strategy it is beginning to appear this is exactly his goal
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Where do you get that crap from? Trump has not spent five years doing any such thing. He has attacked the media and rightfully so. Maybe you have the memory of a goldfish, but not me.
 
coldjoint said:
Where do you get that crap from? Trump has not spent five years doing any such thing. He has attacked the media and rightfully so. Maybe you have the memory of a goldfish, but not me.
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They get it from themselves. They support the dictators who have put everyone on house arrest for what they say is saving lives but it's probably more about hurting the economy.

They have supported the police tazing you you for not wearing a mask. They have supported stripping away your freedom of speech.

Democrats spent the better part of Trump's first term trying to usurp the Democratic process, all the while saying they are protecting democracy.

It's like someone who murders someone else and then tries to blame the murder on a Patsy.
 
Hello Damocles,

Damocles said:
Trump is maintaining his right to fight in court over attempts to circumvent election law and against other shenanigans (forever "finding" ballots in the basement, etc.). This "full dictatorship" crap is nonsense, unless you think that when Biden tries the same thing he is "going full dictator".

In January the winner of the election will be inaugurated as President of the US of A.
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Trump is setting the stage so that in the days after the election, and the mail-in Democratic ballots are still being counted, he will claim victory before the counting is over and make the baseless charge that the 'ballots came out of nowhere.' He will have no proof for what he says, as usual, but that won't stop the cult from latching onto the meme and going nuts about it.

And this after Republicans everywhere pulled all the stops to prevent any mail-in ballots from being counted before election day. What on Earth rationale could there possibly be for not counting ballots as they come in? The mail-in ballots should already be counted by election day. There is no reason to wait. There is a lot of work to do, the best way to get it done sooner is to begin right away.
 
Hello Dachshund,

Dachshund said:
Biden SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING, he's non compos mentis The fact that he IS running , is absolutely outrageous! Totally beyond the pale. WHY IS A PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE WHO IS LITERALLY, MEDICALLY RETARDED BEING ALLOWED TO RUN FOR POTUS. It is absolutely INSANE. And the fact that his running mate, "Heels Up" Harris, doesn't have a problem delivering a recent speech while she was" stoned ofF her face on cannabis" is not too impressive either !


Dachshund
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Baseless claims. Meaningless words. Imaginary. Nothing to back any of it up.
 
Hello Damocles,

Damocles said:
Everybody seems insistent that folks on the other side should just give up on election night, especially if their name is Trump. Saying he thinks there may be shenanigans and that he will fight them if there are is not "full dictator", it is prudence.
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Back when everyone was proud of our America it was customary for the loser to make a concession speech as soon as it was obvious, congratulate the winner, and thank everyone who helped on the campaign. The norm was that when the election is over it is over, bygones are bygones, mutual respect ensues, and there is a peaceful transition of power.

Trump has brought in an era of bitterness, doubt, lies, suspicions and all around chintzy hatred.

He has disgraced the office of president.
 
Hello archives,

archives said:
When he gets around to confusing 9/11 with 7/11, or says Canada burned down the White House, or that the Air Force was involved in the Revolutionary War, get back to us
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It was Trump who claimed the Revolutionary Army 'took over the airports' from Cornwallis.

Here he is, confused as ever:

 
archives said:
"Trump doesn't commit to peaceful transfer of power if he loses"

"President Donald Trump again declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the Nov. 3 presidential election."

“We’re going to have to see what happens,” Trump said Wednesday at a news conference, responding to a question about whether he’d commit to a peaceful transfer of power. “You know that I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster."

"It is highly unusual that a sitting president would express less than complete confidence in the American democracy’s electoral process"

https://www.wnep.com/article/news/n...ower/507-01ca1e6a-0762-46b3-8d2e-d658d1f1f1c8



"The Trump campaign is reportedly planning a way to bypass the 2020 election results in key swing states"

"The Trump campaign is weighing a postelection strategy that would bypass the results in key swing states by installing electors who would vote for the president in the Electoral College even if he loses"

"Using a rationale of baseless claims about widespread voter fraud and other irregularities with mail ballots, President Donald Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly"

"With the key swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin unable to legally process or count absentee ballots until Election Day, and with ongoing legal disputes over ballots received after Election Day, the Trump campaign is reportedly looking to cast doubt on the results"

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...e-electors-plan-loyalists-swing-states-2020-9

Didn't think I would witness in my lifetime the mere mention that the United States could descend into a third world dictatorship. Has any of this type thought or even the consideration ever surfaced in this country prior to the rise of Trump? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, a correlation might exist?
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Fake news.
 
archives said:
And it is getting worse;

"President Trump Says He Will Respect The Election Results If The Supreme Court Rules Joe Biden Won"
https://radio.foxnews.com/2020/09/24/president-donald-trump-on-the-brian-kilmeade-show-9-24-20/

What are you think is the possibility that right now Trump's army of attorneys working with billy barr's Justice Dept have already prepared legal challenges to the results in each and every swing State that Trump loses? The ultimate goal regardless of results is to have the Supreme Court decide the election

As I said, descending into a third world dictatorship
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Contextomy fallacy.
 
archives said:
Yeah, but this is more than just disregarding rules, it is jeopardizing the integrity of the very election system and transfer of power that has served America for over two hundred years now, the very features that make us a democracy, that separate us from a third world dictatorship. And what makes it all even more dangerous is that Trump is doing it all for his own personal ends
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The United States is not a democracy and never was. It is a federated republic.
Trump is not being a dictator. You are just making shit up again.
 
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