Chairman Enrique Torrio

Is the Chairman of Proud Boys a White Supremacist?


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Hey, D.O., did you watch the Braves/Reds game yesterday?

I almost had a heart attack...13 times...13 innings.
 
The thread is about the Proud Boys. Everybody here is talking about the Proud Boys and what they represent. They've been painted as 'White Supremacists'. I think we've all concluded that might NOT be true. They may be 'Alt-Right' but that doesn't make them 'racists'.

Disagreed. Why else would Proud Boys be Trump's response to a question about denouncing white supremacists?

BTW, free hats!

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The thread is about the Proud Boys. Everybody here is talking about the Proud Boys and what they represent. They've been painted as 'White Supremacists'. I think we've all concluded that might NOT be true. They may be 'Alt-Right' but that doesn't make them 'racists'.

They're just a bigot of a different breed, just ask the majority of women. They are irrelevant as can be though. You could take any group and if they made a mission statement, started carrying assault weapons, and marched around town, people would talk about them the same way. Basically an insert blank. I'm laughing right now because I just imagined Watermark as part of a group of weaponized weebs. :laugh:
 
I decided not to provide an option for trolls. Unless you count the "yes" option.

Says the person who often picks the funny answer and likes to be a goof as much as me. I'd say the entire JPP Trinity has an affection for being goofballs.
 
Nope, Pirates fan and they suck lol.

Well, they had Roberto Clemente, the best all round player in history.

He won 12 Gold Glove awards.

I was in Puerto Rico when his plane crashed. We went to see his home and were invited in by his family but we didn't want to intrude.

The entire island was in mourning...a terrible loss, he was a great athlete and a great humanitarian.
 
They're just a bigot of a different breed, just ask the majority of women. They are irrelevant as can be though. You could take any group and if they made a mission statement, started carrying assault weapons, and marched around town, people would talk about them the same way. Basically an insert blank. I'm laughing right now because I just imagined Watermark as part of a group of weaponized weebs. :laugh:

Speaking of bigots...
 
It’s at odds with the founders and our founding documents which clearly referenced a Creator; also many references to “Providence” in their early writings.

It was an explicit reference to a ‘divine hand’ in the affairs of men and where rights are ultimately granted ‘by the Creator’; and this gives the question of rights a sort of gravitas that is totally absent in any form of humanism. Rights become something worth killing and dying for.

It couldn’t be more at odds with secular humanism.

Yeah, but they meant it in a poetic way. Also, they didn't want to upset the public. They were smart politicians who understood the importance of presentation when establishing legitimacy.

Their private letters reveal their true views. Also, it's noteworthy that none of the Founding Fathers requested a man of the cloth on their death beds.
 
Yeah, but they meant it in a poetic way. Also, they didn't want to upset the public. They were smart politicians who understood the importance of presentation when establishing legitimacy.

Their private letters reveal their true views. Also, it's noteworthy that none of the Founding Fathers requested a man of the cloth on their death beds.

“Upset the public.”

“Poetic way.”

Good grief, they upset the public when they declared for the Revolution.

They were not, in any form, secular humanists.
 
Yeah, but they meant it in a poetic way. Also, they didn't want to upset the public. They were smart politicians who understood the importance of presentation when establishing legitimacy.

Their private letters reveal their true views. Also, it's noteworthy that none of the Founding Fathers requested a man of the cloth on their death beds.

Poetic lol.

That’s a crock. It’s a fact that the founders legacy included references to divine providence. What they *didn’t say* was that man was a lucky accident and rights were an artificial construct or however it would defined according to a humanist worldview.

This isn’t a trivial distinction: much of the bloodshed of the last century arose from what was, essentially, a humanist worldview.

I suggest we not end up there.
 
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