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Gas and power prices have spiked across the central U.S. while Texas regulators ordered rolling blackouts Monday as an Arctic blast has frozen wind turbines. Herein is the paradox of the left’s climate agenda: The less we use fossil fuels, the more we need them.

A mix of ice and snow swept across the country this weekend as temperatures plunged below zero in the upper Midwest and into the teens in Houston. Cold snaps happen—the U.S. also experienced a Polar Vortex in 2019—as do heat waves. Yet the power grid is becoming less reliable due to growing reliance on wind and solar, which can’t provide power 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Texas’s energy emergency could last all week as the weather is forecast to remain frigid. “My understanding is, the wind turbines are all frozen,” Public Utility Commission Chairman DeAnn Walker said Friday. “We are working already to try and ensure we have enough power but it’s taken a lot of coordination.”

Wind’s share has tripled to about 25% since 2010 and accounted for 42% of power last week before the freeze set in. About half of Texans rely on electric pumps for heating, which liberals want to mandate everywhere. But the pumps use a lot of power in frigid weather. So while wind turbines were freezing, demand for power was surging.

California progressives long ago banished coal. But a heat wave last summer strained the state’s power grid as wind flagged and solar ebbed in the evenings. After imposing rolling blackouts, grid regulators resorted to importing coal power from Utah and running diesel emergency generators.

Liberals claim that prices of renewables and fossil fuels are now comparable, which may be true due to subsidies, but they are no free lunch, as this week’s energy emergency shows.
The Biden Administration’s plan to banish fossil fuels is a greater existential threat to Americans than climate change.
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/...o-we-do-when-the-wind-turbines-are-all-frozen
 
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wind and solar are not happening in Tx today.
The US has led the world on carbon reduction -why are we slavishly going to let Paris dictate what we are already successfully doing by ourselves?
 
The Biden Administration’s plan to banish fossil fuels is a greater existential threat to Americans than climate change.
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4 million customers without power in Tx. all as a result of stupid laws forcing nat gas off line replaced by renewables. we need to understand this is what happens when you use renewables as primary power.

Renewable have a place in a diversified energy portfolio - but not as a primary supply
 
Besides the impact on households, the cold is wreaking havoc on the energy industry itself. U.S. oil production has dropped by well over a million barrels a day, helping U.S. crude prices trade above $60 a barrel for the first time in more than year. The region’s refining complex -- which produces almost half of the nation’s fuel -- is struggling to limp along without power and gas supplies. Some of the largest oil refineries have shut altogether, threatening to reduce supplies of gasoline and diesel across the country.

Natural gas production has also been curtailed just as the cold caused demand to jump. At the Waha hub in Texas gas changed hands at $500 per million British thermal units on Monday, more than 100 times the price at the Henry Hub, the benchmark for the wider U.S.

Power plants with a combined capacity of more than 34 gigawatts were forced offline on Monday, including nuclear reactors, coal and gas generators and wind farms. It’s not yet clear why. Early on Tuesday, power generation in Texas had yet to stage any significant recovery.

Wind power generators were among the victims of the cold weather, with turbine blades rendered inoperable due to ice -- a phenomenon that reduces efficiency and can ultimately stop them from spinning. Texas estimated that more than half of its wind power capacity had come offline.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eashes-brutal-cold-over-u-s-with-more-to-come

At times, parts of Texas were colder than Alaska, according to the National Weather Service. In the Dallas-Fort Worth area it was 5 degrees Fahrenheit. Houston may pick up as much as 2 inches (5 centimeters) of snow overnight, along with ice and sleet, the National Weather Service said. It will get hit by another storm bringing ice and freezing rain Wednesday.
 
anatta said:
U.S. oil production has dropped by well over a million barrels a day, helping U.S. crude prices trade above $60 a barrel for the first time in more than year. The region’s refining complex -- which produces almost half of the nation’s fuel -- is struggling to limp along without power and gas supplies. Some of the largest oil refineries have shut altogether, threatening to reduce supplies of gasoline and diesel across the country.
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I blame Biden.
 
Legion said:
I blame Biden.
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you should. He's declared war on our energy sector..not just Keystone they are going after other pipelines

Biden Move to Nix Keystone XL Puts Other Pipelines in Bull’s-Eye
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/envir...keystone-xl-puts-other-pipelines-in-bulls-eye
The Dakota Access pipeline is perhaps the only project as widely known and debated as Keystone XL. One big difference: It’s already in service, shipping oil from North Dakota to Illinois since 2017.

Still, the Biden administration could throw hurdles in its path. A federal court last year scrapped the pipeline’s easement across the Missouri River and ordered it to halt operations. The shutdown was averted, but the easement remains void, meaning Dakota Access is technically encroaching on federal land. The Trump administration declined to bring any enforcement action against the company, but Biden officials could.
 
anatta said:
wind and solar are not happening in Tx today.
The US has led the world on carbon reduction -why are we slavishly going to let Paris dictate what we are already successfully doing by ourselves?
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Because idiots on the Left have gotten in charge. Leftists all have the Crapper Touch. Everything they touch turns to shit. We have several centuries of historical proof of that now.
 
anatta said:
Gas and power prices have spiked across the central U.S. while Texas regulators ordered rolling blackouts Monday as an Arctic blast has frozen wind turbines. Herein is the paradox of the left’s climate agenda: The less we use fossil fuels, the more we need them.

A mix of ice and snow swept across the country this weekend as temperatures plunged below zero in the upper Midwest and into the teens in Houston. Cold snaps happen—the U.S. also experienced a Polar Vortex in 2019—as do heat waves. Yet the power grid is becoming less reliable due to growing reliance on wind and solar, which can’t provide power 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Texas’s energy emergency could last all week as the weather is forecast to remain frigid. “My understanding is, the wind turbines are all frozen,” Public Utility Commission Chairman DeAnn Walker said Friday. “We are working already to try and ensure we have enough power but it’s taken a lot of coordination.”

Wind’s share has tripled to about 25% since 2010 and accounted for 42% of power last week before the freeze set in. About half of Texans rely on electric pumps for heating, which liberals want to mandate everywhere. But the pumps use a lot of power in frigid weather. So while wind turbines were freezing, demand for power was surging.

California progressives long ago banished coal. But a heat wave last summer strained the state’s power grid as wind flagged and solar ebbed in the evenings. After imposing rolling blackouts, grid regulators resorted to importing coal power from Utah and running diesel emergency generators.

Liberals claim that prices of renewables and fossil fuels are now comparable, which may be true due to subsidies, but they are no free lunch, as this week’s energy emergency shows.
The Biden Administration’s plan to banish fossil fuels is a greater existential threat to Americans than climate change.
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/...o-we-do-when-the-wind-turbines-are-all-frozen
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Heat pumps don't work well below about 50 degrees or so. Below that temperature it's normal to add gas packs or electric heating strips to the AC unit to supplement the heat pump output. Otherwise, what happens is the unit starts running continuously and can never produce enough heat to meet demand.

Of course, Leftists don't know stuff like that because it isn't taught in Womyn's Studies or whatever and they think skilled trades labor is beneath them... Right up until they're freezing to death and get handed a thousand dollar plus bill to fix the problem by some tradesman.

Now, they could fix the wind turbine problem easily enough. All they'd have to do is add a natural gas heater to each one that pumps warm air into the turbine blades to keep them from freezing...

Solar works so well in winter time...

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I didn't know that there had never been power outages in the US before this.


Haw, haw..................................haw.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Heat pumps don't work well below about 50 degrees or so. Below that temperature it's normal to add gas packs or electric heating strips to the AC unit to supplement the heat pump output. Otherwise, what happens is the unit starts running continuously and can never produce enough heat to meet demand.

Of course, Leftists don't know stuff like that because it isn't taught in Womyn's Studies or whatever and they think skilled trades labor is beneath them... Right up until they're freezing to death and get handed a thousand dollar plus bill to fix the problem by some tradesman.

Now, they could fix the wind turbine problem easily enough. All they'd have to do is add a natural gas heater to each one that pumps warm air into the turbine blades to keep them from freezing...

Solar works so well in winter time...

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All alternative energy comes down to a reliable way of storing it for when needed. Thermal Solar (the only one worth a rats ass) uses molten salts. Days of storage. Alternative energies have to be utilized with another form of proven energy source for times like this. None of this is hard to understand. To anyone other than a democrat politician and their rather blind constituents.
 
Sailor said:
All alternative energy comes down to a reliable way of storing it for when needed. Thermal Solar (the only one worth a rats ass) uses molten salts. Days of storage. Alternative energies have to be utilized with another form of proven energy source for times like this. None of this is hard to understand. To anyone other than a democrat politician and their rather blind constituents.
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Developing a room-temperature super-conductor would solve much of solar and wind's inherent lack of transferable power issues.
 
Grokmaster said:
Developing a room-temperature super-conductor would solve much of solar and wind's inherent lack of transferable power issues.
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There is that. There is also current alternative energy technologies that can work hand in hand with current fossil fuel and other technologies. It is a balance. What this country needs is a 50 year energy plan that no administration can change when they get into office. They can only add to it. As newer proven technologies come along, they can be added. This really can be achieved. It is politicians stopping it all from happening the right way.
 
Heard an interesting story a few years back regarding the absolute insanity of the green laws in regards to emissions. Volkswagen made a Passat that was only to be sold in Europe because its engine could not pass some of our emissions testing here,...yet it passed in the EU. According to the EPA it simply put too many pollutants into the air per gallon burned. Problem is,....it got like 15 more miles to the gallon so it actually polluted FAR LESS than the American version of the Passat that got less miles to the gallon. Yet the Euro version could not be allowed to be sold here.That type of unbending insanity is what drives people away from the cause IMO. It doesnt make any sense. It is pig headed and stupid.
 
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anatta said:
Gas and power prices have spiked across the central U.S. while Texas regulators ordered rolling blackouts Monday as an Arctic blast has frozen wind turbines. Herein is the paradox of the left’s climate agenda: The less we use fossil fuels, the more we need them.
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As usual, anatta is lying his fat ass off and painting a misleading and inaccurate picture of what is happening in Texas.

There is no Green New Deal right now.

There is no Green New Deal regulations.

There is no Green New Deal mandate to shift from Fossil Fuels.

What we are seeing in Texas is the result of CAPITALISM, not socialism or environmentalism.

Texas energy companies were not able to handle a little bit of cold weather, despite winter after winter of colder temperatures in Texas and across the South.

Rather than invest in their energy grid, Texas decided to sell it off to private energy companies, who simply lack the ability to manage their operations in a world affected by Climate Change.

Private energy companies are so terrible at delivering energy to consumers, that those private energy companies are telling their customers to get their energy from elsewhere:

Texas Power Retailers to Customers in Face of Freeze: Please, Leave Us
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...r-retailers-in-face-of-freeze-please-leave-us

Wind and Solar are obviously the only alternative to fossil fuels, with Wind and/or Solar companies never telling their customers to look elsewhere for their energy needs.
 
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