Giuliani's nuts in a vise: prosecutors have audio of him committing a major felony

Rudy has to be sweating more than hair dye by now. He's facing massive lawsuits and criminal investigations. He went from being America's Mayor to being Trump's gopher in just a few years and, instead of looking forward to retiring rich at 77 years of age, he's facing what amounts to a life sentence in prison.

Rudy is definitely going down, I just hope the Feds cart away his freaky son along with him
 
In summary, those activities which courts have held defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 affect the government in at least one of three ways:

[cited in JM 9-42.001]

1. They cheat the government out of money or property;

2. They interfere or obstruct legitimate Government activity; or

3. They make wrongful use of a governmental instrumentality.


https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

There are a whole menu of potential criminal activities. It is illegal to lobby on behalf of a foreign government without registering. Rudy attempting to influence Trump on behalf of his Ukraine buddies makes that a crime. Rudy specifically requested help from a foreign government on behalf of Trumps campaign. Also a crime. I'm not sure what criminal charges can stem from Rudy representing himself as a government official, but I'd guess that's also illegal. Of course by extension, that makes Trump a co-conspirator. Just one more nail in the coffin of Trumps political career. I suspect his time as a free man is running out as well.
 
Rudy has to be sweating more than hair dye by now. He's facing massive lawsuits and criminal investigations. He went from being America's Mayor to being Trump's gopher in just a few years and, instead of looking forward to retiring rich at 77 years of age, he's facing what amounts to a life sentence in prison.

Totally forgot about Dominion.

The loony, kraken Karen is going down too.
 
923. 18 USC § 371—Conspiracy to Defraud the United States ...


(CNN)Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.

The audio is of a July 2019 phone call between Giuliani, US diplomat Kurt Volker, and Andriy Yermak, a senior adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The call was a precursor to Trump's infamous call with Zelensky, and both conversations later became a central part of Trump's first impeachment, where he was accused of soliciting Ukrainian help for his campaign.

During the roughly 40-minute call, Giuliani repeatedly told Yermak that Zelensky should publicly announce investigations into possible corruption by Biden in Ukraine, and into claims that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election to hurt Trump. (These separate claims are both untrue.)

"All we need from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out," Giuliani said, according to the audio. "... Somebody in Ukraine's gotta take that seriously."



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

The pressure exerted seems corrupt but what exactly is the crime?
 
Totally forgot about Dominion.

The loony, kraken Karen is going down too.

Agreed. Not a good end. While it may drag out for another year or two, in the end, Rudy is going down...if he doesn't end his life first.

The Death of Rommel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel#Death

Two generals from Hitler's headquarters, Wilhelm Burgdorf and Ernst Maisel, visited Rommel at his home on 14 October 1944. Burgdorf informed him of the charges against him and offered him three options: (a.) he could choose to defend himself personally in front of Hitler in Berlin,[N 8] or if he refused to do so (which would be taken as an admission of guilt); (b.) he could face the People's Court (which would have been tantamount to a death sentence), or (c.) choose to commit suicide. In the former case, his family would have suffered even before the all-but-certain conviction and execution, and his staff would have been arrested and executed as well. In the latter case, the government would claim that he died a hero and bury him with full military honours, and his family would receive full pension payments. In support of the suicide option, Burgdorf had brought a cyanide capsule.[381]

Rommel opted to commit suicide, and explained his decision to his wife and son. Wearing his Afrika Korps jacket and carrying his field marshal's baton, he got into Burgdorf's car, driven by SS-Stabsscharführer Heinrich Doose, and was driven out of the village. After stopping, Doose and Maisel walked away from the car leaving Rommel with Burgdorf. Five minutes later Burgdorf gestured to the two men to return to the car, and Doose noticed that Rommel was slumped over, having taken the cyanide. He died before being taken to the Wagner-Schule field hospital. Ten minutes later, the group telephoned Rommel's wife to inform her of his death.


The official notice of Rommel's death as reported to the public, stated that he had died of either a heart attack or a cerebral embolism—a complication of the skull fractures he had suffered in the earlier strafing of his staff car To strengthen the story, Hitler ordered an official day of mourning in commemoration of his death. As promised, Rommel was given a state funeral but it was held in Ulm instead of Berlin as had been requested by Rommel.[391] Hitler sent Field Marshal von Rundstedt (who was unaware that Rommel had died as a result of Hitler's orders) as his representative to the funeral.[392] The body was cremated so no incriminating evidence would be left.[393] The truth behind Rommel's death became known to the Allies when intelligence officer Charles Marshall interviewed Rommel's widow, Lucia Rommel,[394] as well as from a letter by Rommel's son Manfred in April 1945.
 
The pressure exerted seems corrupt but what exactly is the crime?

Not a lawyer, but bribery would be one. For Trump, it's abuse of office, but since Rudy wasn't elected, maybe it's "conspiracy to defraud American citizens"?


Or maybe the Ukrainians have some laws that would apply and Rudy would be handed over to them first. LOL
 
Not a lawyer, but bribery would be one. For Trump, it's abuse of office, but since Rudy wasn't elected, maybe it's "conspiracy to defraud American citizens"?


Or maybe the Ukrainians have some laws that would apply and Rudy would be handed over to them first. LOL

Won't fly. If that was corrupt then any pressure applied against a foreign leader by a diplomat or other representative of the President could be bribery. As for the "conspiracy" idea, who was Rudy conspiring with, Trump? Nor would engineering a slander of Biden be a fraud on the American people though it might be one on Biden.
 
Won't fly. If that was corrupt then any pressure applied against a foreign leader by a diplomat or other representative of the President could be bribery. As for the "conspiracy" idea, who was Rudy conspiring with, Trump? Nor would engineering a slander of Biden be a fraud on the American people though it might be one on Biden.

Yes, Trump. Rudy represented himself as Trump's personal lawyer, which Trump acknowledged. Trump later refused to pay Rudy because Rudy failed to overturn the election.

With Rudy on the hook for both lawsuits and criminal charges and Trump fucking him over, what choice does Rudy have except to flip on Donald J. Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/rudy-giuliani-trump-ukraine-warrant.html
F.B.I. Searches Giuliani’s Home and Office, Seizing Phones and Computers
Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Rudy Giuliani broke lobbying laws when he was President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer.
 
Yes, Trump. Rudy represented himself as Trump's personal lawyer, which Trump acknowledged. Trump later refused to pay Rudy because Rudy failed to overturn the election.

With Rudy on the hook for both lawsuits and criminal charges and Trump fucking him over, what choice does Rudy have except to flip on Donald J. Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/rudy-giuliani-trump-ukraine-warrant.html
F.B.I. Searches Giuliani’s Home and Office, Seizing Phones and Computers
Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Rudy Giuliani broke lobbying laws when he was President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer.

Weiselberg is the biggest threat Don is facing right now, he knows where all the bodies are burried, more so than even Cohen
and he has two sons they say he's really concerned about
no way he goes off to prison and bunks with his two sons, he's singing right now for sure
 
Yes, Trump. Rudy represented himself as Trump's personal lawyer, which Trump acknowledged. Trump later refused to pay Rudy because Rudy failed to overturn the election.

With Rudy on the hook for both lawsuits and criminal charges and Trump fucking him over, what choice does Rudy have except to flip on Donald J. Trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/rudy-giuliani-trump-ukraine-warrant.html
F.B.I. Searches Giuliani’s Home and Office, Seizing Phones and Computers
Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Rudy Giuliani broke lobbying laws when he was President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer.

Possible he might flip on Trump given everything that's coming at him. Not the theme of this particular thread, however. At most the Ukraine thing might be a civil damages claim for the Bidens.
 
923. 18 USC § 371—Conspiracy to Defraud the United States ...


(CNN)Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.

The audio is of a July 2019 phone call between Giuliani, US diplomat Kurt Volker, and Andriy Yermak, a senior adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The call was a precursor to Trump's infamous call with Zelensky, and both conversations later became a central part of Trump's first impeachment, where he was accused of soliciting Ukrainian help for his campaign.

During the roughly 40-minute call, Giuliani repeatedly told Yermak that Zelensky should publicly announce investigations into possible corruption by Biden in Ukraine, and into claims that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election to hurt Trump. (These separate claims are both untrue.)

"All we need from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out," Giuliani said, according to the audio. "... Somebody in Ukraine's gotta take that seriously."



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

Then go to court and convict him. Until you do nobody gives a shit you fucking idiot.
 
Then go to court and convict him. Until you do nobody gives a shit you fucking idiot.

Rudy is definitely going to court numbskull, and we'll see if he's convicted

and, lots of people do care how this pans out....I realize it wads your panties

please don't throw another hissyfit after daddy don gets indicted
 
Rudy is definitely going to court numbskull, and we'll see if he's convicted

and, lots of people do care how this pans out....I realize it wads your panties

please don't throw another hissyfit after daddy don gets indicted

I said convict him you stupid fuck. Going to court doesn't mean a fucking thing. This is why a useful conversation can never be had with youn leftist dipshits

BTW you care far more about what happens to trump that I do. Just proves how much he owns your bitch ass.
 
I said convict him you stupid fuck. Going to court doesn't mean a fucking thing. This is why a useful conversation can never be had with youn leftist dipshits

BTW you care far more about what happens to trump that I do. Just proves how much he owns your bitch ass.

of course I care more about what happens to Don than you do, he's still running the GOP. How does it feel to be a world class sucker?....little wonder you love to change the subject, hon
 
of course I care more about what happens to Don than you do, he's still running the GOP. How does it feel to be a world class sucker?....little wonder you love to change the subject, hon

There is no subject to change. You idiots post thread after thread about trump. I love how far up your ass sideways he has gotten. Trump scares the shit out of you assholes. That's clear enough.
 
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