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Pentagon admits Kabul drone strike 'tragic mistake' after killing 10 civilians...
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Hoosier Daddy
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i don't think comparing the loss of 13 soldiers in one day to a suicide bomber, to the loss of hundreds of thousands to covid, when comparing the competency of presidents, is out of line. fuck you if you do not like it, bitch.
Old Trapper
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I see you have your usual kiss ass crowd in the form of Earl posting his thanks for your lies. Nothing new there. First off, it was your lie that Pakistan passed a law based on the Brennan "kill list" (no mention of the Bush "Deck of Cards by you). There was no law. There was a resolution passed by the Pakistan parliament. Try to comprehend the difference. Second, the drone strikes were started by Bush in Yemen, expanded to Pakistan to the point where Pakistan was targeted once a month, and they were secret. Obama loosen up those rules, and then came your gawd trump and expanded the powers of the CIA, and again the secrecy rules, and greatly increased the number of strikes. It should be noted that Pakistan was still using drone strikes as of this year. As is usual in your case of hero worship for the coward trump you again try to place the blame for all things of the Democrats when truth tells a person it is your kind that creates the strife, and lives for it. Peace, or even trying to work with others, has to be forced on you since you have no ethical values that would allow you to do other then what you are doing. Of couree, that is the history of the "conservative".
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09636412.2018.1483633
Old Trapper
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You "forgot" to mention that the killing of Soleimani was in violation of International Law, and killed innocent people. You also ignore the children killed by trump in the killing of Baghdadi.
"Former President Donald Trump released a statement condemning President Joe Biden after the military admitted it killed 10 Afghan civilians in a late August drone strike. However, civilian deaths from U.S.-led airstrikes in Afghanistan increased by 330 percent during the Trump administration.
The Pentagon previously claimed that an August 29 drone strike in Kabul had targeted a militant affiliated with the extremist group ISIS-K. After extensive media reporting that the strike actually killed 10 civilians—including seven children—U.S. Central Command's Marine Corps General Frank McKenzie admitted that it was a "tragic mistake" on Friday."
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-slam...trikewhich-jumped-330-under-his-watch-1630476
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killing of Soleimani was a good thing you stupid old fucker he liked killing Americans
yes it was a resolution, the incoming adm did not follow thru, been a long time since I looked this - the exact outcome i forgot.
"Obama loosened up the rules" is putting it mildly -this was Obama (below).
These are the result of sig strikes
The CIA did not know (25% of the time) who it was targeting and killing in drone strikes in Pakistan over a 14-month period,
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...-know-who-it-was-killing-drone-flna6c10215302
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Im not interested in domestic politics, im interested in stopping the carnage like Biden just did in Kabul
And the blame goes to the CIA or the military in this case as the CIA warned them off -but they droned the kids anyway
I wonder if you can get off your partisan ass and agree sig strikes -by any POTUS need to be banned?
Or by the military of CIA or anyone
Or are you as usual interested only in assigning political blame.
Seems to me there is plenty of blame ALL AROUND, and sig strikes are not going to stop
as long as we play politics with it
which innocents? drones are much more accurate then airstrikes.
Are you seriously saying we should not drone terrorists?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assas...cance_of_the_assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani
The Quds Force, which Qasem Soleimani led, has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the U.S
The IRGC said a total of ten people were killed. Along with Soleimani, four other IRGC officers were also killed: Brigadier General Hossein Pourjafari, Colonel Shahroud Mozafarinia, Major Hadi Taremi and Captain Vahid Zamanian.
deputy chairman of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) and commander of the Iran-backed Kata'ib Hezbollah militia, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis – a person designated as a terrorist by the U.S. and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
And you "forgot" to mention the king of drone killing, barak obama.
Shall we continue to deflect?
Old Trapper
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So the stupid shit cannot think for himself, nor can he read. Never said it was a bad thing dumb f**k, just that it was illegal.
Old Trapper
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And yet drone killing increased by 330% under your gawd trump. But by all means, deflect while you genuflect to your gawd.
Old Trapper
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If you were interested in stopping all drone strikes., and not assigning blame, you would have posted the truth, and not your "opinion".
Old Trapper
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Since you now have admitted you are not in favor of ending all drone strikes, which means you lied as usual, just how do you defend against mistakes?
WTF?
can you read?? I have been criticizing SIGNATURE STRIKES thru the ENTIRE THREAD
Do you even know what that is? noted is your non-responsiveness to then question of killing terrorists
you dont seem to understand the targeting criteria by drone operators
a verified identity like Soleimani ( and international terrorist and leader of Iranian Quds)
is a legit strike.
all the criteria was there, and he was known to be a go between of state actors and middle east terrorists
a "white car" driving near something is not verified -that's a signature strike
Surely you understand the difference?
Old Trapper
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Sorry. I thought you had said you were against all drone strikes. Guess it is only the sig type. Then too, you make an exception for using them for "high value" targets. So, what is not "high value" about ISIS-K terrorists?
Old Trapper
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The reality is that even Soleimani did not present any "Imminent threat" to the US as is required by International Law. But then, your gawds don't even care for US law.
Internationl law would have him still attacking Israel thru Syria with the Quds,
as well as funding and supporting Hezbollah.
He acted as an enemy combatant high value target. He was mid-east most important interlocutor
It's not like you can bring him to trial; so "law" isnt effective + international law is 2nd to national security.
Every POTUS has made that priority.
It was an needed call and the world and we are better off with him gone.
I cant remember but knowing Biden he probably opposed taking him out
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