Oklahoma carried out first execution in six years...

[Rusty Bell 65]

It would probably depend on who gets 'hanged'. I don't see the Left complaining if it was Trump.

Yeah, innocent or guilty, their hatred burns hotter than the flames of hell. Would you have an orgasm too if he were hung?

 

[Jack]

Yeah, innocent or guilty, their hatred burns hotter than the flames of hell. Would you have an orgasm too if he were hung?

Oh ... probably the same reaction if they hung say ... Hitler, Stalin, Lil' Kim, Bin Salman, Erdogan, or that guy in the Philippines.

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

Oh ... probably the same reaction if they hung say ... Hitler, Stalin, Lil' Kim, Bin Salman, Erdogan, or that guy in the Philippines.

You put Trump in the same category as them?

I wasn't a fan of Obama, and I sure ain't no fan of Joe & the Ho, but I wouldn't want them publicly hung. My disdain doesn't go that deep (although it might for a few others...).

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Other than some 'supposed oppressed group', does anyone care about a killer being Killed?

No and, IMHO, it's more humane. Death is easy, living for another 20 years in a small cell is hard.

Prisoners should be allowed to commit suicide. If Congress would pass such a law, then it would help empty our prisons.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yeah, they don't draw the crowds like they used to

Interesting you bring up Kentuckians defending White Southern Womanhood by hanging a black rapist/murderer.

Funny, too, how this thread is about another black man who was vomiting and convulsing during his own execution.

https://www.ozy.com/true-and-storie...lic-hanging-of-a-black-man-in-kentucky/87757/
What made the story more than a local issue — another Black man meeting death at the end of a rope — was the designated executioner. In Daviess County, Kentucky, the local sheriff was supposed to attend to the nuts and bolts of execution. But the sheriff had recently died, and taking his place, by order of a bighearted county judge, was the dead sheriff’s wife, Florence Thompson.

“By law, it was the sheriff who had to carry out the hanging,” my mother explained.

What the town of Owensboro had in August 1936, then, was the prospect of the first-ever female executioner, carrying out her lethal obligations on a public stage.

It was a titillating story, and the newspapers played it for all it was worth, my mother said. People went nuts for the idea of this fine example of White Southern womanhood somehow delivering the coup de grâce to a Black rapist, she said. The city desk felt the need for a female reporter’s touch.

 

[Jack]

You put Trump in the same category as them?

I wasn't a fan of Obama, and I sure ain't no fan of Joe & the Ho, but I wouldn't want them publicly hung. My disdain doesn't go that deep (although it might for a few others...).

Well, it's a little 'tongue-in-cheek'. I view Trump as a 'Authoritarian type'.
If Trump won ... the Election was Fair. If Trump lost ... the Election was rigged.

 

[Jack]

No and, IMHO, it's more humane. Death is easy, living for another 20 years in a small cell is hard.

Prisoners should be allowed to commit suicide. If Congress would pass such a law, then it would help empty our prisons.

I think you are right. That guy Brian Laundrie (of Gabby Petito fame) saw his future as a 8x10 cell for the rest of his life. As an Outdoor Person, that's a fate worse than death.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think you are right. That guy Brian Laundrie (of Gabby Petito fame) saw his future as a 8x10 cell for the rest of his life. As an Outdoor Person, that's a fate worse than death.

Agreed.

The Insurrectionist militia members, planners and violent offenders could face 20 years to lie in ADX Florence with the other terrorists. Not a good way to live.

 

[moon]

Capital punishment is indicative of primitive societies.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It would probably depend on who gets 'hanged'. I don't see the Left complaining if it was Trump.

LOL Probably not. More of the hypocrisy of US politics.

Traitors are hung, soldiers are shot. I'd rather go by firing squad.

https://www.npr.org/2015/04/05/3976...quad-executions-witnesses-recall-the-last-one
He said, 'I lived by the gun, I murdered by the gun, so I will die by the gun,'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...e-not-humane-death-penalty-fading/5120497001/
South Carolina’s governor just signed a law adding the firing squad to the state's arsenal of execution methods. It requires inmates on death row to choose the firing squad or the electric chair (long an alternative in South Carolina) if lethal injection drugs are not available.

Mississippi, Oklahoma and Utah are the only other states that authorize use of the firing squad as a means to put someone to death. South Carolina has not executed anyone since 2011, but it now has 37 men on death row. Three of them have exhausted all appeals.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Does anyone remember Gary Gilmore?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore

Gary Mark Gilmore (born Faye Robert Coffman; December 4, 1940 – January 17, 1977) was an American criminal who gained international attention for demanding the implementation of his death sentence for two murders he had admitted to committing in Utah. After the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a new series of death penalty statutes in the 1976 decision Gregg v. Georgia, he became the first person in almost ten years to be executed in the United States.[1] These new statutes avoided the problems under the 1972 decision in Furman v. Georgia, which had resulted in earlier death penalty statutes being deemed "cruel and unusual" punishment, and therefore unconstitutional. (The Supreme Court had previously ordered all states to commute death sentences to life imprisonment after Furman v. Georgia.) Gilmore was executed by a firing squad in 1977.[2] His life and execution were the subject of the 1979 nonfiction novel The Executioner's Song by Norman Mailer, and 1982 TV film of the novel starring Tommy Lee Jones as Gilmore.

 

[Phantasmal]

Executions are barbaric. We need to stop the practice in the United States.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Executions are barbaric. We need to stop the practice in the United States.

Because locking a human being in a 6X8 cell for the rest of their life is more humane?

Yes, it's barbaric, but our skills as a species don't include fixing people's brains. I wish we did but we don't.

The major problem I have with execution is executing innocent people. Texas has executed at least one innocent person and probably more.

There's also the problem of unequal justice: "as of October 2002, 12 people have been executed where the defendant was white and the murder victim black, compared with 178 black defendants executed for murders with white victims"

This link has a lot of great statistical data: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/race

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

The color of a defendant and victim's skin plays a crucial and unacceptable role in deciding who receives the death penalty in America. People of color have accounted for a disproportionate 43 % of total executions since 1976 and 55 % of those currently awaiting execution. A moratorium of the death penalty is necessary to address the blatant prejudice in our application of the death penalty.

The jurisdictions with the highest percentages of minorities on its death row:

U.S. Military (86%)
Colorado (80%)
U.S. Government (77%)
Louisiana (72%)
Pennsylvania (70%)

While white victims account for approximately one-half of all murder victims, 80% of all Capital cases involve white victims. Furthermore, as of October 2002, 12 people have been executed where the defendant was white and the murder victim black, compared with 178 black defendants executed for murders with white victims.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

More on Gary Gilmore: https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4813391&itype=CMSID

Raised by an abusive, alcoholic father outside Portland, Ore., before spending much of his life in state custody and eventually coming to Utah and killing two people, Gilmore was a man the state deemed fit to kill. He agreed.

"The way he got to the front of the line — there were obviously many more people who committed murders in states that had state-of-the-art death penalty statutes," said Paul G. Cassell, a law professor at the University of Utah, who was interviewed for the documentary. "He was a volunteer, which meant they didn't have the full appellate delays."

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I continue to oppose capital punishment........a lifetime in prison is an opportunity to repent and be saved........

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

Interesting you bring up Kentuckians defending White Southern Womanhood by hanging a black rapist/murderer.

Funny, too, how this thread is about another black man who was vomiting and convulsing during his own execution.

https://www.ozy.com/true-and-storie...lic-hanging-of-a-black-man-in-kentucky/87757/
What made the story more than a local issue — another Black man meeting death at the end of a rope — was the designated executioner. In Daviess County, Kentucky, the local sheriff was supposed to attend to the nuts and bolts of execution. But the sheriff had recently died, and taking his place, by order of a bighearted county judge, was the dead sheriff’s wife, Florence Thompson.

“By law, it was the sheriff who had to carry out the hanging,” my mother explained.

What the town of Owensboro had in August 1936, then, was the prospect of the first-ever female executioner, carrying out her lethal obligations on a public stage.

It was a titillating story, and the newspapers played it for all it was worth, my mother said. People went nuts for the idea of this fine example of White Southern womanhood somehow delivering the coup de grâce to a Black rapist, she said. The city desk felt the need for a female reporter’s touch.

I knew what it was. Google is your friend.

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

I continue to oppose capital punishment........a lifetime in prison is an opportunity to repent and be saved........

Death row would be more of a motivation.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Death row would be more of a motivation.

only as long as someone remains on it.......

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

Well, it's a little 'tongue-in-cheek'. I view Trump as a 'Authoritarian type'.
If Trump won ... the Election was Fair. If Trump lost ... the Election was rigged.

Yeah, Trump was, but aren't most leaders the 'Authoritarian type'?
Well, I guess it wasn't rigged. Trump ain't president. You won. Now
it's Biden's game. Lets see how he plays it. I just hope he can figure
out what cards he has, or we're in big trouble.

 

[Jarod]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ok..._mG9LB6fU3d0_t0GDjrrPTVtzoKOPYdOCGLStRrrnJILs

Oct 28 (Reuters) - Oklahoma on Thursday conducted its first execution in six years, putting John Grant to death after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a stay of execution for him and another man, even as public support for the death penalty diminishes.

Grant, 60, died by lethal injection at 4:21 p.m. (2121 GMT), the state said.

His death marked the first in Oklahoma since three botched executions in 2014 and 2015, using a three-drug protocol that has been questioned as possibly causing a slow and painful death.

After Grant died on Thursday, his lawyer, Sarah Jernigan, said he had tried to atone and understand his actions "more than any other client I have worked with."

She said he was a victim of brutality both at home and at the hands of Oklahoma's youth detention system, and did not receive mental health treatment, ultimately murdering prison employee Gay Carter in 1998 while incarcerated for another crime.

The last-minute intervention from the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a stay of execution for Grant and Julius Jones, who is scheduled to be put to death on Nov. 18.

More at link...

Pro-Life Oklahoma?