don't attend the "civil war"

Legion said:
No, it wasn't.

Federal troops were present in Fort Sumter, which was US soil, before the DEMOCRATS seceded.

And the "CSA" was unrecognized.
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It doesn't matter if the CSA was recognized by the Union or not. It was it's own nation. It's form of government was a republic.
Federal troops are required to leave a foreign nation unless that nation continues some kind of treaty with them. There was no such treaty between the CSA and the USA. Attempting to stay in that fort and resupply it was an act of war.
 
Into the Night said:
That claim was void when South Carolina seceded. No State could make any such treaty in the CSA. It was unconstitutional.
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I'm not sure what "treaty" you're referring to, but I am fairly certain that December 17, 1836 predates February 8, 1861, as does the occupation of Fort Sumter by the US Army.
 
Legion said:
Who told you that?
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No one. Unlike you, I think for myself.
The CSA was a republic. It was a foreign nation. It was no longer USA territory. Maintaining troops in a foreign nation is an act of war unless a treaty exists between the two nations specifically allowing them there. There was no such treaty.
 
Into the Night said:
It doesn't matter if the CSA was recognized by the Union or not. It was it's own nation. It's form of government was a republic. Federal troops are required to leave a foreign nation unless that nation continues some kind of treaty with them. There was no such treaty between the CSA and the USA. Attempting to stay in that fort and resupply it was an act of war.
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Wow. Who told you all that stuff?
 
Into the Night said:
No one. Unlike you, I think for myself. The CSA was a republic. It was a foreign nation. It was no longer USA territory. Maintaining troops in a foreign nation is an act of war unless a treaty exists between the two nations specifically allowing them there. There was no such treaty.
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So you just made it up?
 
Jarod said:
I have seen and heard it discussed with a gleam in their eye, talking about the weapons they are collecting. IN fact a poster on this board told me how he was so looking forward to it so he could put a cold metal bullet in my head.
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With a hammer and it's frozen? That's rough. I'd imagine that's a hard way to go! :shock:
 
Legion said:
Fort Sumter was a federal military post built on a sand bar in 1814.

On December 17, 1836, South Carolina officially ceded all "right, title and, claim" to the site of Fort Sumter to the United States.

https://archive.org/details/genesiscivilwar00crawgoog
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And Georgia Military Academy was a Federal soldier training school before the secession of GA.
Oh, the Confederates took it over. Yes they did.
 
AssHatZombie said:
the best thing is hillary maybe running again.

holy shit stains!
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Matt Dillon said:
Why does this not show your claim of founded in 1890? You delete it? Ok, argument over. But just to prove my point: "History:Established 1851" https://georgia.hometownlocator.com/maps/feature-map,ftc,3,fid,355998,n,georgia military academy.cfm
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What are you talking about?


Matt Dillon said:
And Georgia Military Academy was a Federal soldier training school before the secession of GA. Oh, the Confederates took it over. Yes they did.
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And I see no reference to Georgia Military Academy being a Federal soldier training school before the secession of GA.
 
Into the Night said:
It doesn't matter if the CSA was recognized by the Union or not. It was it's own nation. It's form of government was a republic.
Federal troops are required to leave a foreign nation unless that nation continues some kind of treaty with them. There was no such treaty between the CSA and the USA. Attempting to stay in that fort and resupply it was an act of war.
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Fort Sumter was and is a part of the United States as the southern states, why would the United States need a treaty with themselves on territory of the United States. It was an insurrection by the south which eventually put down

Lincoln was too magnanimous to the traitors


At the outset of the Civil War Stephens was elected to the Confederate Congress and chosen as the vice president of the Confederate States of America. He then famously gave the “Cornerstone Speech,” in which he announced that the new government was founded on the idea that blacks were inferior to whites.


What does Alexander Stephens say are the reasons for secession and the forming of a new government?
Stephens states, “the agitating question relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization.
 
Legion said:
What are you talking about?




And I see no reference to Georgia Military Academy being a Federal soldier training school before the secession of GA.
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Guess what, jeenius! The internet wasn't around back then! :shock:

Oh, there's plaques and everything there. An old black man in Georgia told me all about it.

I reckon it's his job to tell the story. Pretty interesting if you ask me.

Also Legion, the internet is inaccurate and incomplete. Just because it isn't on the internet doesn't mean it isn't. :rolleyes:
 
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