Trans woman - the hero!

ThatOwlWoman said:
The absolutist statements are an indication of rage. So are the self-praising nonsense screams.
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I have been trained in Judo and Tae Kwon Do. There were some girls/women you just don't want to mess with. They will rip off your balls and hang em on their wall if you cross them.
 
Althea said:
The guy who jumped him, and eventually beat the perp with his own gun openly admitted that he was going to kill the fuck.

He had his entire family there to watch the show, as the daughter was friends with one of the performers. After the show, there was evidently a DJ and everyone was dancing. That's when the murderer showed up.

The guy who shut him down basically said that 'he was trying to kill my family. I was going to kill him before he could succeed.'
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So then even he is a low quality hero.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yeah it makes sense that a few would attempt to help in stopping the shooter. It's hard to tell who's who. Naturally, as you have stated, some do not want to be known.
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One 'hero' took the guy down from behind. He instructed another patron to grab the long gun and get it away from the perp. Said hero then noticed that there was also a handgun, so he grabbed it and started beating the guy in the head with it. One of the performers was nearby, so original guy told him to 'kick the guy in the head'.

That's when the performer stomped the perp in the face/head with his heels.


I would LOVE to see the booking photos.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Almost all of us will kill if our family/loved one is being threatened, as was true in this case, whether it's a 180-lb tall woman like my oldest daughter (who is 6'1") or a 5'5" 140-lb. dad whose kid is in danger.

This whole thing is just one more exhibit of Minty's various prejudices and bigotries.
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The discussion has devolved into nonsense in large part due to the original flawed claim.

Arguing the woman/man strength issue is moot. There were no women involved in the incident. It just became an excuse to parrot talking points on both sides of the discussion, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the incident.
 
Life is Golden said:
Why are you afraid of these strangers?

Again, which of them are picking up your bills this month? Surely there is some reason you are compelled to push a fairytale not even close to reality. A woman cannot subdue a 6' + 250 lb man. That is just stupid. lol
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I'm not. However, I don't trust them beyond a certain point. That point varies upon the situation.

None of them, dear. Why do you think someone is picking up my bills? Are you projecting? Who picks up your bills?

Disagreed. Why do you constantly run down women as weak and helpless, Lig? Are you projecting?

Again, with training, a smaller person can take down a larger one. Example:

https://middleeasy.com/brazilian-jiu-jitsu/female-bjj-larger-male/
Female BJJ Black Belt Takes Down Much Larger Male Opponent
Monica Brogan Shows BJJ Technique Trumps Size But Obliterating Bigger And Taller Man
This is yet another example of how easy it is for technique to best size. Of course there is a limit to how far this goes, but typically an average Joe on the streets would stand no chance against a trained BJJ practitioner, no matter the size difference. The whole point of the marital art is to use leverage to best someone who is bigger than you, and those skills still apply to this day. Unfortunately that seems to do nothing to deter people from thinking they can beat someone, just because they are a woman, or smaller than them.
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Althea said:
One 'hero' took the guy down from behind. He instructed another patron to grab the long gun and get it away from the perp. Said hero then noticed that there was also a handgun, so he grabbed it and started beating the guy in the head with it. One of the performers was nearby, so original guy told him to 'kick the guy in the head'.

That's when the performer stomped the perp in the face/head with his heels.


I would LOVE to see the booking photos.
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I hope there is a video of that! :laugh:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Almost all of us will kill if our family/loved one is being threatened, as was true in this case, whether it's a 180-lb tall woman like my oldest daughter (who is 6'1") or a 5'5" 140-lb. dad whose kid is in danger.

This whole thing is just one more exhibit of Minty's various prejudices and bigotries.
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I think she's going through a rough patch. Maybe lacking companionship is depressing her. If true, she should consider volunteering to help feeding the poor or working with a group selling Christmas raffles or something. Being in public and serving a good cause is a great way to meet good people. Much better than bars.
 
AProudLefty said:
Do you think she is aware that women are trained rigorously in martial arts and in the military? If she is aware,then of course there is a reason. Maybe jealousy and anger.
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Because a few women have taken martial arts doesn't mean there is no difference in physical strength or size between men and women.

The point stands. If you can dispute it, do so. Calling me "poopy pants" isn't winning an argument. lol
 
Life is Golden said:
It doesn't mesh with reality. Claiming there is no difference in strength or size between men and women is a "feel good" virtue signaling fantasy.

Not even close to reality. But, you know that. Why pretend? Is preening and posturing for a bunch of strangers worth it? :smile:
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Did you know there was a woman in England that was able to lift a car off of a school boy? Have you never heard of “hysterical strength”?

I know that women are more capable than you are willing to give them credit and I have no doubt that a woman could stop an active shooter. I think of the mother at Uvalde that was ready to do so, snuck past the police to rescue her children.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Again, with training, a smaller person can take down a larger one. Example:

https://middleeasy.com/brazilian-jiu-jitsu/female-bjj-larger-male/
Female BJJ Black Belt Takes Down Much Larger Male Opponent
Monica Brogan Shows BJJ Technique Trumps Size But Obliterating Bigger And Taller Man
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LOL. I realize that arguing with Minty is great fun. You're both debating on the margins.
From your link:

Of course there is a limit to how far this goes, but typically an average Joe on the streets would stand no chance against a trained BJJ practitioner, no matter the size difference
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And that's not even true. You cannot fight physics


Anybody can sucker punch someone, or use a bat when the other person isn't aware, and achieve a result.

Gender doesn't really matter in perfect circumstances.

Which is why I love to make the argument to open carry ammosexuals that if I wanted their gun, I would have it in a matter of minutes. Probably seconds.
 
Althea said:
Arguing the woman/man strength issue is moot. There were no women involved in the incident. It just became an excuse to parrot talking points on both sides of the discussion, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the incident.
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This is absolutely 100% correct. Duh for me.
 
Phantasmal said:
Did you know there was a woman in England that was able to lift a car off of a school boy? Have you never heard of “hysterical strength”?

I know that women are more capable than you are willing to give them credit and I have no doubt that a woman could stop an active shooter. I think of the mother at Uvalde that was ready to do so, snuck past the police to rescue her children.
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There was no woman involved in this incident, therefore the entire discussion is moot.

Happy Thanksgiving! :smile:
 
Life is Golden said:
Because a few women have taken martial arts doesn't mean there is no difference in physical strength or size between men and women.

The point stands. If you can dispute it, do so. Calling me "poopy pants" isn't winning an argument. lol
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Are you aware that men/women have different strengths and agility? For example, some ballet women can squeeze the miserable life out of a guy.

How about Britney Garner? Yep.

So you have lost and TARFU'd.
 
Phantasmal said:
Did you know there was a woman in England that was able to lift a car off of a school boy? Have you never heard of “hysterical strength”?

I know that women are more capable than you are willing to give them credit and I have no doubt that a woman could stop an active shooter. I think of the mother at Uvalde that was ready to do so, snuck past the police to rescue her children.
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And this particular incident is a lot like what you describe.

Especially if anyone had family in the vicinity. The guy who did act eventually came from behind and yanked him to the ground. An adrenalating woman could achieve that, whether or not she could have kept him down.
 
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