Gun Monkey Follies

1. Your first sentence from the previous post: "Already done by me and half dozen others." which is a lie because you have not shown the bill that expressly calls for the confiscation of weapons legally owned by law abiding citizens. S1531 was not a blanket confiscation of all weapons. It did make it a crime to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess certain semiautomatic assault weapons (SAWs) and large capacity ammo clips and such AFTER THE LAW WAS PASSED. Gun laws usually (in my lifetime, anyway) have a "grandfather clause", which allows buyers to keep weapons on a ban list that were purchased BEFORE the law went into effect.

So if you can prove otherwise beyond your worthless opinion, suppositions and conjecture, please do. If not, spare us all more gun monkey babble.

2. :rolleyes::palm: The Newsom proposal deals with PURCHASES AND SELLING. Nowhere in your link does it say that legal purchasing BEFORE the law would go into effect would be confiscated. If I missed it, please copy, paste and highlight. If not, AGAIN spare us all more gun monkey babble.

3. Get a dictionary and look up the words "prohibit" and "confiscate". Then scan through your references and cop/paste where confiscation is mandated for weapons purchased BEFORE THE LAW WAS ENACTED. If you can't honestly do that and honestly report your findings, then your just another :orang:
Get a dictionary and look up the definition of "infringe", you fucking shitneck!
 
1. Your first sentence from the previous post: "Already done by me and half dozen others." which is a lie because you have not shown the bill that expressly calls for the confiscation of weapons legally owned by law abiding citizens. S1531 was not a blanket confiscation of all weapons. It did make it a crime to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess certain semiautomatic assault weapons (SAWs) and large capacity ammo clips and such AFTER THE LAW WAS PASSED. Gun laws usually (in my lifetime, anyway) have a "grandfather clause", which allows buyers to keep weapons on a ban list that were purchased BEFORE the law went into effect.

So if you can prove otherwise beyond your worthless opinion, suppositions and conjecture, please do. If not, spare us all more gun monkey babble.

2. :rolleyes::palm: The Newsom proposal deals with PURCHASES AND SELLING. Nowhere in your link does it say that legal purchasing BEFORE the law would go into effect would be confiscated. If I missed it, please copy, paste and highlight. If not, AGAIN spare us all more gun monkey babble.

3. Get a dictionary and look up the words "prohibit" and "confiscate". Then scan through your references and cop/paste where confiscation is mandated for weapons purchased BEFORE THE LAW WAS ENACTED. If you can't honestly do that and honestly report your findings, then your just another :orang:

1. So you try to lie your way out because Adam the lying little Schitt is only trying to confiscate MOST guns, not all.
2. "Mandatory Buyback" programs are confiscation.

You gun grabber monkeys are not clever. Not only is "buyback" a euphemism for confiscation, it tips your hand as to who your target is. Obviously criminals won't comply with buyback confiscation schemes. But then you never wanted to disarm criminals. It's the law abiding who would comply with the unconstitutional laws you pass who you want defenseless, because it's those law abiding who are likely to stand against you in the imposition of your attack on our Constitutional Republic.
 
Just when I think your responses can't get any dumber, you surpass yourself.

Here stupid, for your education:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/30/fact-check-democratic-party-did-not-found-kkk-start-civil-war/3253803001/


And then ask yourself, which political party and it's candidates in the last 25 years has had the ringing endorsements of former KKK members and various white nationalist/supremacist groups? (this should be good, dear readers).

ROFL

And people wonder why the DNC Propaganda Corps has a whopping 8% trust from the public....

Useless Rag Today attempting to lie away the fact that democrats started the Civil War and founded the KKK. Too funny, but just shows what sleazy liars leftists truly are, particularly the Little Goebbels of the party press.

Yes, democrats did indeed start the first civil war when they fired on federal troops at Ft. Sumpter. Yes, democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan as a terrorist group to murder and assault Republicans initially, expanding to freed slaves later. The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democrat party until Richard Nixon broke their back in 1969 by making them civilly liable and the democrat terrorists collapsed.

In 2009 - Barack Obama revived the KKK, renaming it BLM and designating Republicans and white people as the scapegoat to be assaulted and attacked. Same old Klan, just changing the skin tone of the victims.

democrats, democrats never change.
 
Just to clarify. If I own a gun in MA and I make some fast cash by selling it to Joe Schmoe next door, I have to register a bill of sale/transfer of that gun similar to a car sale? And Joe Schmoe has to register that gun as well?
More than that Comrade. You have to conduct the transfer through a Federally Licensed Firearms dealer.

Do you even grasp the 90% of what you have posted in this thread are outright lies?
 
"Conservatives own firearms at more than double the rate of liberals, with roughly 45% of conservatives reporting personal gun ownership compared to about 16% to 20% of liberals. "

:evilnod: :thinking: :cool:

Part of that is Conservatives will buy guns legally through dealers. Leftists are more likely to buy black market weapons in back alleys and from the Cartels.
 
They know there is a gun show loophole because the gun grabbers say it a lot.

They do not however have even a vague idea what that means. They just know it's killing a lot of innocent people.

Yes they are that stupid.

Notice how the gun grabber monkey STILL can't come up with a single shooting perpetrated with a gun purchased at a gun show?

Monkeys like @Taichiliberal chant mantras from the anti-rights hate sites without a clue of actual facts.
 
Now you had an ex-con on parole cutting loose with an assault weapon in Cambridge, MA. Fortunately only 2 people were injured, no fatalities. The perp was taken down by police fire, and is hospitalized... to stand trial when he's able.

The immediate question comes to mind ... how the hell does an ex-con on parole gets his hands on an assault weapon AND back up piece? Was that weapon formerly on the 1994 AWB list? Would a universal background check and registration of ALL weapons sales have prevented this?
the immediate question that should come to mind is why was this guy in public in the first place?
 

🔍 Claim:


📊 Key facts​

  • Gun show loophole: Federal law does not require background checks for private sellers at gun shows. This gap has been documented by the ATF and Congressional Research Service.
  • Examples contradicting the claim:
    • 1999 Columbine High School shooting: Two of the four guns used were purchased at a gun show through private sellers without background checks.
    • 2019 Odessa, Texas shooting: The shooter obtained his rifle via a private sale that bypassed a background check.
    • Other cases: ATF investigations have linked firearms used in crimes to gun show transactions, though not all qualify as “mass shootings.”
So “ZERO, ever” is demonstrably wrong — there have been multiple cases.


🧠 Context​

Gun shows themselves aren’t the root cause, but the private‑sale loophole they enable is a documented pathway for illegal or unchecked purchases.The claim ignores decades of evidence and federal reports showing that unregulated secondary markets contribute to gun trafficking and violent crime.
there is no gun show loophole, nor is there a private sale loophole. If you had an inkling of intelligence, you'd already know that the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 that mandated the NICS system which restricted access to ONLY licensed importers, manufacturers, and dealers..............which meant that the ATF SPECIFICALLY exempted private sales from accessing NICS. This is not a loophole, but a feature of FREEDOM............something you communistic satan loving liberals know nothing about
 
there is no gun show loophole, nor is there a private sale loophole. If you had an inkling of intelligence, you'd already know that the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 that mandated the NICS system which restricted access to ONLY licensed importers, manufacturers, and dealers..............which meant that the ATF SPECIFICALLY exempted private sales from accessing NICS. This is not a loophole, but a feature of FREEDOM............something you communistic satan loving liberals know nothing about
you just yelled the dictionary definition of a loophole and called it freedom.

  • Private_sales don’t require background checks.
  • Licensed_dealers do.
  • Gun_shows are where tons of private sellers gather.
  • ATF has documented for decades that this gap fuels unvetted transfers.
You can dress it up as patriotism, but the function stays the same, a hole in the system big enough to walk a rifle through.
 
you just yelled the dictionary definition of a loophole and called it freedom.

  • Private_sales don’t require background checks.
  • Licensed_dealers do.
  • Gun_shows are where tons of private sellers gather.
  • ATF has documented for decades that this gap fuels unvetted transfers.
You can dress it up as patriotism, but the function stays the same, a hole in the system big enough to walk a rifle through.
the ATF KNEW what they were doing with this. A purposeful exemption in the law does not create a loophole. anybody believing that it is is delusional
 
Which has nothing to do with this thread, the shooting happened in MA and the OP asked why there would be no background checks.

Of course, in this case the kid got the weapons from his own home and all of this is useless information. But I answered the OP's question about sales of guns in Mass...
It don't work that way here. Unless it's Class III, nobody does nothin'.
A dude gave me a Lee Enfield #1 Mark III, Was that registered? No.
Things between private citizens do not require a FFL.
Now if my cousin wanted to give me his Tommy gun, that'd be different.
I'd have to get a Class III license.
 
Oh, so they are not criminals, just associates of criminals. Until they buy a gun for a known felon. Then they become a criminal.
:palm::rolleyes: Okay, let's take this from the top:

1. Person A is NOT a criminal .... no DUI or DWI arrests, no illegal drug use/selling/possession arrests, no public or domestic disturbances, pays their bills on time, pays taxes. Not so much as even a parking ticket.

2. Person B is a criminal with a rap sheet .... did time, finished their parole.

3. Person B cannot by law own a gun .... BUT their friend, Person A can. They both live in a state where the gun laws are considered very lax as compared to other states. In state #2, it is a high standard for a citizen with no criminal record to obtain a gun license.

4. Person A buys one or more guns, legal by state law. Since there is no requirement for a private sale of said gun(s), Person A can sell to Person B to be registered, so the gun can change multiple hands before getting to Person B.

5. Person B travels to relocates to another state, smuggling the guns (which can be smuggled also by Person A for the transaction). In state #2, he (and possibly an accomplice) commit crimes with guns they could not get in that state even if they didn't have criminal records.

6. Look up the phrase "iron pipeline" and how it relates to various states and gun crimes.

Got that?
 
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