Satan's failed rebellion, when he entered YHWH's space it caused the Big Bang and the creation of "the Angel who has power over fire" the Archangel!
Archaeology of the New Testament
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Into the Night
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How can any event cause the Big Bang? There is no Universe for such an event to take place in!
Spirit world predates the Physical universe!
ZenMode
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And it starts again...
ZenMode
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As I've said several times, we don't know how the universe came into existence and I am perfectly fine saying that rather than making up explanations and fairytale creatures.
See above.
Nope. I'm saying the universe is not as you describe it.
There's no paradigm. Saying "I don't know" or "Science hasn't explained" is a lot more reasonable than making up explanations and, in the case of most of the world, structuring your life around that made up explanation.
You still haven't convinced me that the universe is as you describe it - rational, organized, etc. Of the Earth is so special, why is it designed so badly?
Into the Night
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Not possible. Go learn English.
Into the Night
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You haven't started anything, Void.
Into the Night
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How do you know the 'universe came into existence'?
Magick Word (science). Science isn't being discussed here.
Here you are partially correct. The Universe is not organized at all. The word 'rational' does not apply here.
What makes you think it is designed so badly?
ZenMode
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It's not known, but that is the current leading theory is that the Big bang brought to the universe into assistance.
Derp
If I have to explain, meaning that you are either trolling or are too dense to see the many flaws, you are not going to get it anyway and I would be wasting my time.
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IBDaMann
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You have no idea what you are asking.
... or Climate.
You have no idea what you are asking.
It is the 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the observable universe that can support terrestrial life.
You have no idea what it means to "explain gravity." None of those explain you.
... and religious speculation doesn't answer them either. Speculation is not an answer; it's a guess.
He didn't say that. Only you are claiming that he said that so that you can attack the bogus position that you assigned to him.
You are operating under the delusion that there is somehow mathematics in the universe that is not in someone's mind.
You are irrational and totally undereducated. You cannot be convinced.
There is no such thing. All mathematics is invented in the human mind. Mathematics does not exist floating around in the universe.
You have no idea what you just gibbered.
IBDaMann
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Philosophical Question: Is it possible that the earth wasn't designed so much as it was "supplied"?
IBDaMann
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I asked if you thought if it's reasonable to believe an omnipotent and omniscient deity can somehow spontaneously come from the irrational and the immaterial.
You flee to the hills every time I ask you this question, and of course you never answer.
So you claim the Physical universe predates the Spirit world! You're a fucking moron
ZenMode
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What spirit world?
Do you think you're just a big piece of meat?
evince
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Dear idiot
If they claim to be the truth than it does bare on religion
If if just a philosophy
Stop taking it as the only true fact
Fuck you very much
evince
Truthmatters
Into the Night
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It is certainly possible.
But, consider this:
Earth is beautiful. Whether you are on the surface looking at a forest or out across the plains, it's wide variety of vegetation, lakes, rivers, streams, oceans, and even the deserts are a feast for the eyes, or when you see it from space. Yes, it happens to be our home, but what a beautiful home it is!
It is just the right size for our atmosphere to form as it has. Combined with oceans, and oxygen in the atmosphere, everything is provided for to keep our temperatures in a very narrow range and to protect life from the harsh radiation of open space. Further, the atmosphere is 'recycled', so to speak through animal life and plant life. Both are required for the other.
Earth is active, but benign. It has a liquid mantle and core, producing a changing surface but without killing everyone and everything. That core also provides for a magnetic field that no only is an aid to navigation, but protects us from the harsh solar wind or our nearby star. It even produces a pretty effect...the auroras.
We are just the right distance from the center of the galaxy. We are close enough to see many stars, but far enough that our sky isn't obscured with dust. Even the view from Earth is beautiful.
It is the only planet we know of that can support life. Admittedly, our view is extremely limited, but at least in this solar system, no other planet has this capability.
Life itself somehow arrived on Earth. How did this happen? Abiogenesis would result in a cell, but what is that cell going to eat? How would it survive the UV from the Sun? Did life originate on Earth (making it even MORE remarkable!), or was it placed here by some intelligence? If the latter, could such intelligence have manipulated conditions on Earth for that life to survive and flourish?
In other words, it is also quite possible the Earth was supplied by an intelligence, who also manipulated conditions on Earth for that life to survive and grow.
Does a cow know that she was bred by a rancher for a specific use? Provided a pasture to graze in, and a barn to stay out of the weather in.
Does a cow know that both the pasture, the barn, and the milking parlor were all provided by the rancher? Or does it simply exist to the cow much as the Earth simply exists to us?
To the cow it makes no difference, but the rancher knows better.
To us, it makes no difference, but the 'designer' would know better.
So yes, you can look at it either way.
Into the Night
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Not possible. Go learn what the 'uni-' means in Universe.
Into the Night
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