Archaeology of the New Testament

[Jerry Mathers]

In other words, you can't even think of any third option other than either a rational cause, or an irrational cause for the rational laws of nature.

in other words, you know everything.

 

[ZenMode]

Einstein is using abductive logic, not superstition. Either the order and rationality Einstein saw in the laws of nature are a random chance result of inanimate and irrational processes -- or their not.

Right, the order and rationality Einstein SAW. Just like you, he saw order and rationality. That's an opinion.

Again, it's more honest to say "We don't know" than to make up fairytale creatures.

 

[ZenMode]

Hey...it's YOUR god.

You are not an atheist. You are a religious fundamentalist.

But carbon dioxide cannot.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

It does not stop water vapor either. A virus is not water vapor, Void.

Buzzword fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

Yes you do. You are a fundamentalist.

I never said you believed in astrology. Strawman fallacy.

I never said you believed in alchemy. Strawman fallacy.

But your religions ARE a religions.

Well, I gave you a chance.

 

[Cypress]

Right, the order and rationality Einstein SAW. Just like you, he saw order and rationality. That's an opinion.

The natural laws of the cosmos are mathematical relationships. Mathematics is a form of pure logic. If that's not rational, then nothing is.

Again, it's more honest to say "We don't know" than to make up fairytale creatures.

You make decisions every day of the week based on imperfect or incomplete information. I'm not even asking you to explain the origin of the universe. I'm asking you to just address a basic, simply exercise in logic. Is it more reasonable to think the cause of the rational is the irrational; or that the cause of the rational is the rational?

 

[Cypress]

you know everything!

No fair-minded person could read anything I wrote and leap to that conclusion.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

No fair-minded person could read anything I wrote and leap to that conclusion.

you're an idiot.

 

[Cypress]

you're an idiot!

No fair-minded person could read anything I wrote and leap to that conclusion.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

No fair-minded person could read anything I wrote and leap to that conclusion.

we all have leapt to that conclusion.

 

[Cypress]

we all have leapt to that conclusion.

"We"? Do you have schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder?

 

[Into the Night]

you don't.

science acknowledges objects being at rest.

Call me a fig Newton, I don't care.

you people are high on dumb juice.

Obviously you have no idea what 'at rest' means. You just want to deny the Theory of Relativity.

 

[Into the Night]

you don't.

science acknowledges objects being at rest.

Call me a fig Newton, I don't care.

you people are high on dumb juice.

Newton never described objects at rest.

 

[Into the Night]

Einstein is using abductive logic, not superstition.

Mathematics is neither logic nor superstition, Cyborg.

Either the order and rationality Einstein saw in the laws of nature

There is no 'Universal Law of Nature'.

are a random chance result of inanimate and irrational processes -- or their not.

The Universe is not sentient.
The Universe is not a 'process'.
The Universe is not Einstein.
The Universe is not a law.
The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe is not logic.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

false dichotomy fallacy.

No, buzzword fallacies. He never mentioned a dichotomy at all.

 

[Into the Night]

I love how militant atheists start slowly backing away from the label atheist when one starts asking probing questions about the atheist worldview.

There is no such thing as a 'militant atheist'.
Atheism is not a label.
Atheism is not a religion.

Science is completely atheistic.
Mathematics is completely atheistic.
Logic is completely atheistic.

The Universe is not a religion.
The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

Feel free to explain a third option for the origin of the rational laws of nature, besides them having either a rational cause, or an irrational cause.

The Universe is not a law.
There is no Universal Law of Nature.
The Universe is not a division.
The Universe is not a cause.
Buzzword fallacies.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

In other words, you can't even think of any third option other than either a rational cause, or an irrational cause for the rational laws of nature.

The Universe is not a division.
The Universe is not a cause.
The Universe is not a law.
Go learn what 'rational' and 'irrational' mean and where these words are used.
Buzzword fallacies.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

Right, the order and rationality Einstein SAW. Just like you, he saw order and rationality. That's an opinion.

Again, it's more honest to say "We don't know" than to make up fairytale creatures.

The Universe is not Einstein.
The Universe is not a law.
The Universe is not a fairytale.
The Universe is not a creature.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, I gave you a chance.

You gave nothing.

 

[Into the Night]

The natural laws of the cosmos are mathematical relationships. Mathematics is a form of pure logic. If that's not rational, then nothing is.

You make decisions every day of the week based on imperfect or incomplete information. I'm not even asking you to explain the origin of the universe. I'm asking you to just address a basic, simply exercise in logic. Is it more reasonable to think the cause of the rational is the irrational; or that the cause of the rational is the rational?

Mathematics is not logic. Logic is not mathematics.
Go learn what 'rational' means.
Go learn what 'irrational' means.

The Universe is not buzzwords.
The Universe has no known origin.
The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe is not logic.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

No fair-minded person could read anything I wrote and leap to that conclusion.

Trying to deny your fundamentalism now? It won't work, Cyborg. Denying your own posts never does.