Jerry Mathers
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yes, we know you're a fascist nazi globalist zio-shill hole dickeater.
go eat your bag.
For those who love to blame boomers for EVERYTHING wrong in the country....
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go eat your bag.
You got the wrong side of the math here. Lower wages always drives down labor. Labor is not allowed to collectively negotiate, so cannot drive up (or down) wages. Instead, their only choice is to not to participate, which is what started happening.
Simple question: we have had a shortage of labor for several decades now, and it has been acute now, so why are wages still dropping?
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Go learn English, NoName.
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They aren't, Wally.
Plenty of people are working.
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You are generation jonesPolitically or otherwise...........This one is for YOU. And BTW,....you can STFU any time now.
I am the tail end of the Boomers,...born in 64. More like a Gen Xer really. Point is,...sooooooooooooo much Boomer hate out there and its just so wrong headed and stupid. Youngers blaming anything and everything on Boomers you can think of. The whole housing blame game thing is beyond ridiculous. As if its somehow our fault we were able to buy our homes for a half way reasonable price, maintain it , improve it, and hold onto it for decades, not to mention all the property taxes we paid through the years and now that we finally get to realize a substantial profit on it were not supposed to do that? Get outta here with that bullshit nonsense,...as if younger people would say.........." No,...I don't want that profit I earned over DECADES,...lets sell it way under market instead" Yeah....o.k whatever,......
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Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
this doesn't even make sense. you fucking idiot
there is no labor shortage, many job postings are fake to justify more immigration.
the new jobs being fake but the new immigrants being real drives down wages.
you got it, fuckface?
have you seen how many kids coming out of school are finding nothing?
fuck you seriously dude.
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Generation Jones - Wikipedia
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Generation Jones is the generation or demographic cohort between the Baby Boomers and Generation X. The term was coined by American cultural commentator Jonathan Pontell (b. 1958), who has argued that the term refers to a distinct generation born from 1954 to 1965
Is that so, Jerry?
Generation Jones - Wikipedia
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Is "Generation Jones" an official or widely accepted fact?
No. “Generation Jones” is a popular cultural label, not an official demographic category used by major research organizations.
Jonathan Pontell coined the term around 1999 for people born roughly 1954–1965 (sometimes listed as mid-1950s to mid-1960s). The name plays on “keeping up with the Joneses,” a large anonymous cohort, and the slang “jonesing” (a craving), reflecting the idea that this group grew up with 1960s expectations and then hit the economic and cultural letdown of the 1970s.
How it is treated
- Official sources: Pew Research Center and the U.S. Census Bureau treat Baby Boomers as 1946–1964 and Generation X as 1965–1980. They do not list Generation Jones as a standalone generation. The Census officially recognizes only the postwar baby boom as a distinct demographic event.
- Common views:
- A distinct generation (Pontell’s position and much media coverage).
- The younger/trailing half of the Baby Boomers (“late Boomers”).
- A cusp or micro-generation between Boomers and Gen X.
It appears in dictionaries (Collins, Dictionary.com), has a Wikipedia page, and gets periodic coverage in outlets like the New York Times, Forbes, Newsweek, and Politico. Barack Obama has identified with it. Some marketers and commentators find the split useful because formative experiences differed: older Boomers came of age with 1960s activism and postwar prosperity; Jonesers experienced Watergate, oil shocks, stagflation, and the shift away from pensions as young adults.
Bottom line
It is a recognizable, reasonably well-documented descriptor with real cultural traction, especially among people born in that window who feel the standard “Boomer” label does not fit. It is not a widely accepted official fact on the same level as the Pew/Census generations, and many researchers simply call the group late Boomers. Generational boundaries are analytical constructs, not laws of nature; this one has more marketing and media life than institutional status.
Generation Jones: Cultural Label vs Official | Shared Grok Conversation
Is "Generation Jones" an official or widely accepted fact?
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You disappoint me, Jerry. You didn't confess that you made it up yesterday, did you?
Walt’s post:
Two parts of that are wrong, and one part is half-right.
Wages are not “still dropping” as a general fact. Nominal wages have risen for decades. Real wages for lower-skill and production workers had long stretches of stagnation or decline, then rose during the tight markets of the late 2010s and 2021–23. Construction and some other immigrant-heavy occupations have seen faster wage growth in periods when inflows slowed. “Wages are still dropping while there is an acute shortage” does not match current BLS earnings data.
There has not been a labor shortage for several decades. Unemployment was high in the mid-1970s, early 1980s, early 1990s, 2001–03, 2008–13, and 2020. Those are slack markets, not shortages. Tightness showed up later and was cyclical. An “acute shortage now” is also overstated for 2026: unemployment is around 4%, openings are far below the 2022 peak, and the openings-to-unemployed ratio is near 1.
Workers can move wages without a union. They quit, switch jobs, refuse offers, or stay out. That is how tight markets raise pay even in non-union sectors. The late-2010s and post-COVID episodes showed exactly that: low unemployment, high quits, and faster wage growth at the bottom. Unions amplify bargaining power; they are not the only channel.
The half-right piece is labor-force withdrawal. Prime-age male participation, especially among the less-educated, fell for decades. Low relative pay, disability programs, criminal records, and competition from extra low-skill labor all show up in that literature. “Lower wages reduce participation” can be true for some groups. It does not prove a multi-decade shortage, and it does not mean wages can only move through collective bargaining.
So the simple question has a simple answer: wages have not been steadily falling through a 50-year shortage, because there was no 50-year shortage, and when the market actually tightened, pay at the bottom rose even without unions. Immigration, union decline, trade, and participation all affect the same wage. Treating only one of them as the cause does not fit the data.
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Fuck grokIs "Generation Jones" an official or widely accepted fact?
No. “Generation Jones” is a popular cultural label, not an official demographic category used by major research organizations.
Jonathan Pontell coined the term around 1999 for people born roughly 1954–1965 (sometimes listed as mid-1950s to mid-1960s). The name plays on “keeping up with the Joneses,” a large anonymous cohort, and the slang “jonesing” (a craving), reflecting the idea that this group grew up with 1960s expectations and then hit the economic and cultural letdown of the 1970s.
How it is treated
- Official sources: Pew Research Center and the U.S. Census Bureau treat Baby Boomers as 1946–1964 and Generation X as 1965–1980. They do not list Generation Jones as a standalone generation. The Census officially recognizes only the postwar baby boom as a distinct demographic event.
- Common views:
- A distinct generation (Pontell’s position and much media coverage).
- The younger/trailing half of the Baby Boomers (“late Boomers”).
- A cusp or micro-generation between Boomers and Gen X.
It appears in dictionaries (Collins, Dictionary.com), has a Wikipedia page, and gets periodic coverage in outlets like the New York Times, Forbes, Newsweek, and Politico. Barack Obama has identified with it. Some marketers and commentators find the split useful because formative experiences differed: older Boomers came of age with 1960s activism and postwar prosperity; Jonesers experienced Watergate, oil shocks, stagflation, and the shift away from pensions as young adults.
Bottom line
It is a recognizable, reasonably well-documented descriptor with real cultural traction, especially among people born in that window who feel the standard “Boomer” label does not fit. It is not a widely accepted official fact on the same level as the Pew/Census generations, and many researchers simply call the group late Boomers. Generational boundaries are analytical constructs, not laws of nature; this one has more marketing and media life than institutional status.
Generation Jones: Cultural Label vs Official | Shared Grok Conversation
Is "Generation Jones" an official or widely accepted fact?
Grok isn't fuckable, Desh.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
I did. but then you said it was him.
i thought AI is actually using guno image as the goto tard image. that would be epic.
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But you keep trying
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No, I don't Desh, and I don't consider you fuckable, either, so don't ask.
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I would end you if you tried
There's no chance of that, Desh. Stick to your usual victims.