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While I agree with your observations, how much should good people attempt to put their lives on the line? History teaches they diddn’t do it fore just themselves. They did. Itlfor their. Chidldreon
Yep. Darwinian evolution encourages us to render assistance and sacrifice our own resources for our own kin group or tribe - but generally not outside it.

How many times have we seen MAGA morons scream about cutting off foreign aid and only using our own resources only on Americans? Trump and his cult even cheer cutting off disaster aid to the blue states.

The Golden Rule as articulated by Confucius and Jesus is a universal principle of social justice that requires transcending our Darwinian evolutionary urges.
 
I'm not a libertarian.

I can be convinced of certain aid to other nations. but it needs to be our decision and not directly conflict with our own interests. this falls into the "mutually beneficial" part of my definition.
I've never seen you even one time enthusiastically embrace the idea of foreign aid.

And when Trump acted to cut off disaster aid to blue states you stayed as quiet as a church mouse and didn't voice the slightest objection.
 
I've never seen you even one time enthusiastically embrace the idea of foreign aid.an

And when Trump acted to cut off disaster aid to blue states you stayed as quiet as a church mouse and didn't voice the slightest objection.
and. ...

USAID was a corrupt corpuscle of corruption.
 
and. ...

USAID was a corrupt corpuscle of corruption!
I see that you are tacitly confessing you were never an advocate for foreign aid, and that you snickered when Trump cut disaster aid to blue states.

That means you neither practice the Golden Rule, nor do you have a developed moral compass. You are just a prisoner of your scientific Darwinian urges to render assistance only to your kin, tribe, and friends - but not beyond them.
 
I see that you are tacitly confessing
^^^^^why do you do this? It's about the most dishonest thing you do but claiming victory by just decreeing what the other person agrees with or that, and while I don't know in this case, in every case you do with me, it is always wrong.

Why can't you debate and defend your point without making up shit about the other side?
 
I'm surprised these reactionaries are trying to make kids read the King James Bible.

The language in KJV is so archaic, kids won't be able to understand it.

The intent of the school board is obviously not to the benefit of the kids, but to ingratiate themselves with the fire-and-brimstone gang, whom mistakenly believe KJV is the most authentic Bible.
I don't think the idea is to make kids read the bible. I think it's meant to offer an 'alternative' to science when discussing Darwin, etc.
 

Yep. Darwinian evolution encourages us to render assistance and sacrifice our own resources for our own kin group or tribe - but generally not outside it.

How many times have we seen MAGA morons scream about cutting off foreign aid and only using our own resources only on Americans? Trump and his cult even cheer cutting off disaster aid to the blue states.

The Golden Rule as articulated by Confucius and Jesus is a universal principle of social justice that requires transcending our Darwinian evolutionary urges.

Well, if Darwin doesn't do it for ya, how about CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM? Commands from GOD ALMIGHTY

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Sam 15:3 et seq)

"They utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21 et seq)

"And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword. And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, " (Joshua 8:24 et seq)

"The LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it ... and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein." (Joshua 10:32 et seq)

So much for God being the author of "morality".


What does that leave you?
 
Yep. Darwinian evolution encourages us to render assistance and sacrifice our own resources for our own kin group or tribe - but generally not outside it.

How many times have we seen MAGA morons scream about cutting off foreign aid and only using our own resources only on Americans? Trump and his cult even cheer cutting off disaster aid to the blue states.

The Golden Rule as articulated by Confucius and Jesus is a universal principle of social justice that requires transcending our Darwinian evolutionary urges.
Trump and his MAGA sheeple are the opposite of both Confucius and Jesus. Same for being opposite of Siddhartha Gautama and Gandhi.

Trump and his followers have dark souls which place wealth and power above all other things. They are evil.
 
But in what class? It can't be a science class, since none of the requirements for a scientific theory exist.
That’s exactly where they want to teach it. They are science-deniers who believe the world is only 6000 years old just like the Bible says. Dinosaur bones were placed by Satan to trick mankind into doubting the holy word of God in the Bible.

Notice too, they only cherry-pick the most violent parts of the Bible in order to justify their actions. MAGAts never quote the Sermon on the Mount or other peaceful and loving words of Jesus Christ.
 
MORE CHRISTIAN MORALITY!

During the Albigensian Crusade the Papal Legate at the attack on the Albigensians is supposed to have said: "caedite eos novit enim dominus qui sunt eius" (Kill them all. Surely God will know His own.)

CHRISTIANITY: WHERE WE GET THE PHRASE "KILL 'EM ALL, LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT"

Praise Jesus!

SO much for your religious morality of Christianity
 
YET MORE Vaunted Christian Morality:

The Rhineland Massacre: In the 11th century French and German peasants murdered up to 2000-5000 Jews in a pogrom.

Massacre of York (Clifford's Tower, a place I've actually visited!) Pretty much all the Jews in town were under attack and took refuge in Clifford's tower. Most committed mass suicide rather than be murdered by the Christians.

14th Century Black Death Pogroms: During the outbreaks of the Black death in the 14th century the Good Christians of Europe decided that God would be OK with them murdering thousands of Jews based on the belief they had poisoned the wells.


The list goes on.

Seems to me that God and Religion don't ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORALITY PER SE.
 
Notice too, they only cherry-pick the most violent parts of the Bible in order to justify their actions. MAGAts never quote the Sermon on the Mount or other peaceful and loving words of Jesus Christ.

That's because the Old Testament is where we first meet God.

Supposedly even in your fucked up head God doesn't change.

If God changes then this whole "Religion gives us morality" bullshit is just that. Bullshit.

If you can't take ALL of God then YOU ARE THE ONE CHERRY PICKING
 
Well, if Darwin doesn't do it for ya, how about CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM? Commands from GOD ALMIGHTY

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” (1 Sam 15:3 et seq)

"They utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21 et seq)

"And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword. And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, " (Joshua 8:24 et seq)

"The LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it ... and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein." (Joshua 10:32 et seq)

So much for God being the author of "morality".


What does that leave you?
You've given up on defending your claim that the Golden Rule is just an ironclad scientific law of human nature, eh?
 
You've given up on defending your claim that the Golden Rule is just an ironclad scientific law of human nature, eh?
Which of his PhD’s caused him to believe the Golden Rule is written into Human DNA?

Mammalian evolution is driven by the best survival strategies of the parents. Tribes of human that work together have a higher chance of surviving local events than those who do not. A basic flaw in youthful anarchist ideology is that the first tribes that work with other tribes will dominate the anarchistic tribes. A combination of basic human nature and reasoning human minds that can formulate longterm plans.

A partial example of how genetic parental strategies affect species survival.
Using this information as predictors, our previous work inferred that the common ancestor of placental mammals was nocturnal, insectivorous, solitary, and bred seasonally. Here, we added seven new continuous traits including lifespan, bodyweight, and five reproduction-related traits and inferred the coevolution network of 14 core life history traits for 89 mammals. In this network, bodyweight and lifespan are not directly connected to each other; instead, their correlation is due to both of them coevolving with gestation period. Diurnal mammals are more likely to be monogamous than nocturnal mammals, while arboreal mammals tend to have a smaller litter size than terrestrial mammals. Coevolution between diet and the seasonal breeding behavior test shows that year-round breeding preceded the dietary change to omnivory, while seasonal breeding preceded the dietary change to carnivory. We also discuss the evolution of reproductive strategy of mammals. Genes selected as predictors were identified as well; for example, genes function as tumor suppressor were selected as predictors of weaning age.
 
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That is what some schools have been trying for years. But the fundamental principles of science are requirements that religion cannot do.
IMO, it depends upon the religion in question. The MAGA religion obviously ignores science unless it’s about war.
 
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