A Defense of a Liberal Arts Education

Not this thread in particular. I just notice you tend to start or post more about elite schools you couldn’t get in to than anyone else here.

Where did I say there’s a rule against it?
I just notice you tend to start or post more about elite schools you couldn’t get in to than anyone else here.
I suspect the reason is sour grapes on your part.
So it sounds like almost everyone else on this thread is thin-skinned and sensitive to hearing that there are elite schools which are academically superior to where ever you all went to school.

My ego doesn't get bruised. The state university I went to is not in the same league as Harvard and MIT. And I'm not thin-skinned enough to be bothered to admit those schools are academically better than mine.
 
I never wrote a word that Reagan was trying to destroy and dismantle UC. Do you normally have discussions with the voices in your head?

You're not responding to what I wrote. You're responding to what you wish I wrote. Do you normally have discussions with the voices in your head?

I specifically stated that Duke, Rice, UT Austin are respectable schools.

I specifically stated that there are a range of average, decent, and good colleges across the nation.

I worked at a highly regarded multinational corporation based in the South, and worked alongside perfectly capable people from Texas A&M, LSU, Iowa University, Oklahoma University. I myself never had the grades for Harvard, Columbia, or MIT.

I am not the first person in history to notice that the nations most elite universities and institutions where the most Nobel laureates worked tend to mostly (but not exclusively) be Ivy League schools, the elite private research universities in the north and northeast, and the UC schools along with Caltech and Stanford.

That's just a common sense observation which is not controversial.
I'm an American, I hate Duke. But Duke is ranked #7 in the country. It's tied with Penn and ahead of 4 other Ivies. Yet that's only respectable to you? Either there are only a half dozen elite schools in the country, or you are so blinded by geography (partisanship) that you can't see the obvious.

Cal is #15. Three schools are tied behind them Rice, Vanderbilt and FUCLA. So again, maybe all those schools are simply respectable. Or is respectable/elite simply defined by geography?

I'm not sure anyone questions there are a lot of elite (or actually respectable) schools in the Northeast. It's 2026, we're not exactly discovering something new here. But you are coming at this from an identity perspective, that because these states are more liberal today these schools validate your worldview.

But that ignores that for long periods of time the Northeast was heavily Republican. And the South was heavily Democratic. History doesn't fit into neat little partisan narratives many of us, right or left, like to create.

But I go back to the dichotomy of promoting education, but having to view it through such a partisan lens it's like painful to acknowledge schools in areas you don't agree with politically as elite.
 
When? What century?
The 20th...

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I'm an American, I hate Duke. But Duke is ranked #7 in the country. It's tied with Penn and ahead of 4 other Ivies. Yet that's only respectable to you? Either there are only a half dozen elite schools in the country, or you are so blinded by geography (partisanship) that you can't see the obvious.

Cal is #15. Three schools are tied behind them Rice, Vanderbilt and FUCLA. So again, maybe all those schools are simply respectable. Or is respectable/elite simply defined by geography?

I'm not sure anyone questions there are a lot of elite (or actually respectable) schools in the Northeast. It's 2026, we're not exactly discovering something new here. But you are coming at this from an identity perspective, that because these states are more liberal today these schools validate your worldview.

But that ignores that for long periods of time the Northeast was heavily Republican. And the South was heavily Democratic. History doesn't fit into neat little partisan narratives many of us, right or left, like to create.

But I go back to the dichotomy of promoting education, but having to view it through such a partisan lens it's like painful to acknowledge schools in areas you don't agree with politically as elite.
OT: FUCLA? :ROFLMAO:
 
OT: FUCLA? :ROFLMAO:
Hahahaha!! If I go to into storage I'm pretty sure I still have a FUCLA shirt I bought while in school.

What's funny is I grew up going to Cal games (and actually hated USC believe it or not). And I have a group text with a bunch of Cal buddies. And a couple of weeks ago one of them called them FUCLA as well. I was dying as I thought we were the only ones to do so! LOL.
 
OT: FUCLA? :ROFLMAO:
Totally random but I actually thought of you because I believe you said you loved Troy Polamalu when he was on the Steelers (he went to USC).

His son is a senior in high school and has chosen Stanford over USC for football (hard to blame him, I always joke with my 4th grade daughter the one school I'd let her go to other than USC is Stanford, haha.)

But I remembered you being a big fan.
 
Totally random but I actually thought of you because I believe you said you loved Troy Polamalu when he was on the Steelers (and he went to USC).

His son is a senior in high school and has chosen Stanford over USC (hard to blame him, I always joke with my 4th grade daughter the one school I'd let her go to other than USC is Stanford, haha.)

But I remembered you being a big fan.
Can you do your inane chit chat somewhere else. Respect the thread topic or get the fuck off.
 
Totally random but I actually thought of you because I believe you said you loved Troy Polamalu when he was on the Steelers (he went to USC).

His son is a senior in high school and has chosen Stanford over USC (hard to blame him, I always joke with my 4th grade daughter the one school I'd let her go to other than USC is Stanford, haha.)

But I remembered you being a big fan.
Oh yeah, I loved him. Still do!
 
I'm an American, I hate Duke. But Duke is ranked #7 in the country. It's tied with Penn and ahead of 4 other Ivies. Yet that's only respectable to you? Either there are only a half dozen elite schools in the country, or you are so blinded by geography (partisanship) that you can't see the obvious.

Cal is #15. Three schools are tied behind them Rice, Vanderbilt and FUCLA. So again, maybe all those schools are simply respectable. Or is respectable/elite simply defined by geography?

I'm not sure anyone questions there are a lot of elite (or actually respectable) schools in the Northeast. It's 2026, we're not exactly discovering something new here. But you are coming at this from an identity perspective, that because these states are more liberal today these schools validate your worldview.

But that ignores that for long periods of time the Northeast was heavily Republican. And the South was heavily Democratic. History doesn't fit into neat little partisan narratives many of us, right or left, like to create.

But I go back to the dichotomy of promoting education, but having to view it through such a partisan lens it's like painful to acknowledge schools in areas you don't agree with politically as elite.
Thanks for the tacit, if unspoken, confession that I never said a word about Ronald Reagan and UC, despite what the voices in your head told you about me.

As for all your frantic word parsing, I am not the one that ranked only two southern schools in the Nation's top 20 elite universities. It was the annual US News and World Report that did that. It's not even remotely controversial for me to observe the overwhelming majority of the nation's most elite universities are concentrated in the north-northeast.

I don't have any problem calling Rice and Duke excellent schools if that will satisfy your massive penchant for word parsing and word-smithing.
 
What is Advanced College Math with Calculus?
Mathematics is a way of thinking. One side of human brains does all of it.
Mathematics is a closed functional system, defined by is axioms (core rules).
Like any closed functional system, the power of the proof, and with it, the power of prediction is possible.
Mathematics inherently contains the power of prediction as long as you stay with a given set of axioms. Like a game, it is only that game if you follow all the rules set for it (the axioms).

Change a single rule, and you are playing a different game.

There are several Domains in mathematics, achieved by making a minor change in an axiom.

The Real Mathematics Domain is the one taught to you in school. You know, with infinitely small points, infinitely long lines, etc.

The calculus first appeared as differential calculus. Later, integration became possible, through the efforts of Newton and Leibnitz.

Mathematics is not a college, class, university, book, government funding, research program, website, magazine, pamphlet, search engine, magazine, or journal.

The same can be set about science.

Neither uses consensus.

Certain branches of mathematics lose their ability to predict, due to the use of random numbers. These include probability math, random number mathematics, and statistical mathematics as examples.

Einstein was good at math, but lacked the ability to describe a tensor properly. He need this for his theories of relativity. He wrote to a friend who was good at math, and Einstein learned how to construct the tensor properly so he could complete his theories.

Tensors are used in engineering to describe stress of materials, calculate aerodynamic or hydrodynamic drag, in game engines, graphics libraries, so-called 'AI' software that generates or analyzes images, etc.

Calculus has many uses. The speedometer on your car is a differential machine. A single revolution on the output shaft of your transmission means the car moves a certain fixed distance. The speedometer, by measuring RPM on this output shaft, and countering with a spring providing an opposing force, can give speed, rather than the distance travelled. (Speed is the differential of distance over time).

An accelerometer is likewise is a differential machine, this time measuring acceleration (acceleration is the differential of the change of speed, or speed changing by time). Acceleration is a differential of a differential.

Integral calculus allows you to 'reverse engineer' these values, by taking acceleration, and integrating a speed value out of it, and again by integrating speed into distance traveled in that time. When you convert 60mph to a "mile a minute", you are actually conducting an integration in a simple way, using the hour as the average (60 minutes in an hour).

Often described as 'higher mathematics', it really is just mathematics. Anyone can learn it if they want to.

Grade school is supposed to give you an understanding of arithmetic, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, algebra, etc.
I find most high school graduates are very poor at arithmetic (they can't even make change properly), are poor at algebra, and have almost no understanding of geometry, trigonometry, or calculus.

I find COLLEGE kids in about the same level of understanding of mathematics.

There are exceptions, of course.
 
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