Hitler was on the Right side of the spectrum. . .
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Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime are classified as far-right rather than left-wing because their core policies, actions, and alliances targeted leftist movements, preserved private enterprise, and promoted racial hierarchy instead of class equality. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Destruction of the Left
Economic and Social Structure
Ideology of Hierarchy and Nationalism
Destruction of the Left
- Banned and persecuted leftists: Immediately after taking power in 1933, Hitler used the Reichstag Fire Decree to arrest and imprison communists, socialists, and trade union leaders, making them the very first inmates in Nazi concentration camps. [1, 2]
- Outlawed trade unions: Hitler abolished independent trade unions, replacing them with the state-run German Labour Front, which stripped workers of the right to strike and bargained in favor of industrial production. [1, 2]
- Prohibited leftist parties: The US Holocaust Memorial Museum notes that the Nazi regime officially banned the Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party, eliminating any left-wing political opposition. [1]
Economic and Social Structure
- Preserved private property: Unlike the Marxist left, which sought the collective ownership of the means of production and the expropriation of private property, Hitler partnered with wealthy industrialists and kept private property intact, provided businesses served the war effort. [1]
- Privatization: During the 1930s, the Nazi regime embarked on a massive campaign of selling off state-owned railways, banks, and steel mills to private capitalists—coining the term privatisierung (privatization).
- Purge of the socialist wing (Night of the Long Knives): In 1934, Hitler ordered the execution of Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm alongside leadership elements of the Sturmabteilung (SA). This purged the anti-capitalist, pseudo-socialist working-class faction within his own party (Strasserism) to secure the backing of traditional German military elites and conservative capitalists. [1]
Ideology of Hierarchy and Nationalism
T. A. Gardner
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Those are all qualities of the Left.
Authoritarian governments abound on the Left.
The Left is totally opposed to democracy and freedom of choice.
This doesn't vary by country or history.
QP!
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As Terry has been testing his legs, with regards to a future without Trump and him then pretending he never supported him, he has also been pulling his racist and xenophobic hood on.
Prior he tried to be not as overtly racist as he has been recently and this attempt to portray Hitler as a leftist, as ridiculous as it is, is an extension of that.
Like I said, ONLY you believe that.
T. A. Gardner
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Which "right leaning ones" were those?
You are idiot. Authoritarianism is a quality of the Left. The Right are for limited government and promotion of the individual over the state.
If you have Authoritarianism on the Left and on the Right, and mix other qualities the same way, then the distinction between Left and Right becomes meaningless.
QP!
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Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime are classified as far-right rather than left-wing because their core policies, actions, and alliances targeted leftist movements, preserved private enterprise, and promoted racial hierarchy instead of class equality. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Destruction of the Left
- Banned and persecuted leftists: Immediately after taking power in 1933, Hitler used the Reichstag Fire Decree to arrest and imprison communists, socialists, and trade union leaders, making them the very first inmates in Nazi concentration camps. [1, 2]
- Outlawed trade unions: Hitler abolished independent trade unions, replacing them with the state-run German Labour Front, which stripped workers of the right to strike and bargained in favor of industrial production. [1, 2]
- Prohibited leftist parties: The US Holocaust Memorial Museum notes that the Nazi regime officially banned the Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party, eliminating any left-wing political opposition. [1]
Economic and Social Structure
- Preserved private property: Unlike the Marxist left, which sought the collective ownership of the means of production and the expropriation of private property, Hitler partnered with wealthy industrialists and kept private property intact, provided businesses served the war effort. [1]
- Privatization: During the 1930s, the Nazi regime embarked on a massive campaign of selling off state-owned railways, banks, and steel mills to private capitalists—coining the term privatisierung (privatization).
- Purge of the socialist wing (Night of the Long Knives): In 1934, Hitler ordered the execution of Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm alongside leadership elements of the Sturmabteilung (SA). This purged the anti-capitalist, pseudo-socialist working-class faction within his own party (Strasserism) to secure the backing of traditional German military elites and conservative capitalists. [1]
Ideology of Hierarchy and Nationalism
- Racial supremacy over class struggle: Left-wing politics center on class conflict and the abolition of social classes. Hitler explicitly rejected this, arguing that race and the supremacy of the "Aryan" nation mattered more than economic class. [1, 2]
- Alliances with traditional elites: Hitler rose to power through coalitions with conservative nationalists, monarchists, and military leaders who viewed him as a useful tool to crush the political left and stabilize Germany. [1, 2]
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Clearly this is opinion and subjective rather than objective or measurable. As I already pointed out, it is not uncommon on the Left for the faction in power to go after and even violently eradicate other Leftist factions they disagree with. So, this measure is wrong, as Grok often is.
I pointed out this is common on the Left. It happened when the Soviets took power in Russia. It happened across Eastern Germany when the Communists took power.
It's happened in Brazil repeatedly.
It is not a viable measure of Left or Right.
Statist Capitalism is a form of Socialism and on the Left. Or, are you trying to claim China today is on the Right because they practice statist capitalism, as but one example.
I already demonstrated that Nationalism is NOT a measure of Left or Right politically on its own. Many Leftist regimes practice it too. It is not uncommon on the Left.
QP!
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You are using words you do not understand again.
On the topic of Hitler being left or right wing the ENTIRE discussion is subjective ALWAYS. There is no objective truth.
But what i provided is LOTS of DATA exposing many of Hitlers right wing actions.
Arguments you cannot refute so you try to hand wave them away.
None of the above changes the facts i put in big print for you and which all of them you ignore.
Hitler was a literal enemy of the left. Attacking, killing and dismantling them. WHile aligning with the right and giving power to it.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Absolute bullshit. How authoritarian was Hitler compared to other polities of the 20th Century? It is clearly obvious you can roughly rank them.
How much control over the economy of Germany did the Nazis have? Again, that can be ranked compared to governments in other nations.
How important was the state compared to the individual? That too is measurable in rough terms.
You provided ZERO data. All you provided were generalized statements that made ZERO comparison to other governments, leaders, and polities.
I ignored nothing. You simply cannot and will not accept that vague generalizations that are not compared to anything else are subjective opinion and nothing more.
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Comparing Hitler's regime to nothing but Hitler's regime means nothing. That is what you are doing.
So those who opposed Monarchy are authoritarians?
QP!
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Absolute bullshit. How authoritarian was Hitler compared to other polities of the 20th Century? It is clearly obvious you can roughly rank them.
How much control over the economy of Germany did the Nazis have? Again, that can be ranked compared to governments in other nations.
How important was the state compared to the individual? That too is measurable in rough terms.
You provided ZERO data. All you provided were generalized statements that made ZERO comparison to other governments, leaders, and polities.
I ignored nothing. You simply cannot and will not accept that vague generalizations that are not compared to anything else are subjective opinion and nothing more.
“Subjective” vs. “Objective”: What’s The Difference? | Dictionary.com
Has someone ever asked for your objective opinion? Or said that something is “entirely subjective”? The words subjective and objective are used in all kinds of contexts, from journalism to science to grammar, and they’re often discussed as opposites. But what do they actually mean? In most...
Comparing Hitler's regime to nothing but Hitler's regime means nothing. That is what you are doing.
I will post it again, since you are intent to ignore it and point out THOSE LARGE WORDS ARE DATA. THINGS HITLER ACTUALLY DID!
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Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime are classified as far-right rather than left-wing because their core policies, actions, and alliances targeted leftist movements, preserved private enterprise, and promoted racial hierarchy instead of class equality. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Destruction of the Left
- Banned and persecuted leftists: Immediately after taking power in 1933, Hitler used the Reichstag Fire Decree to arrest and imprison communists, socialists, and trade union leaders, making them the very first inmates in Nazi concentration camps. [1, 2]
- Outlawed trade unions: Hitler abolished independent trade unions, replacing them with the state-run German Labour Front, which stripped workers of the right to strike and bargained in favor of industrial production. [1, 2]
- Prohibited leftist parties: The US Holocaust Memorial Museum notes that the Nazi regime officially banned the Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party, eliminating any left-wing political opposition. [1]
Economic and Social Structure
- Preserved private property: Unlike the Marxist left, which sought the collective ownership of the means of production and the expropriation of private property, Hitler partnered with wealthy industrialists and kept private property intact, provided businesses served the war effort. [1]
- Privatization: During the 1930s, the Nazi regime embarked on a massive campaign of selling off state-owned railways, banks, and steel mills to private capitalists—coining the term privatisierung (privatization).
- Purge of the socialist wing (Night of the Long Knives): In 1934, Hitler ordered the execution of Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm alongside leadership elements of the Sturmabteilung (SA). This purged the anti-capitalist, pseudo-socialist working-class faction within his own party (Strasserism) to secure the backing of traditional German military elites and conservative capitalists. [1]
Ideology of Hierarchy and Nationalism
- Racial supremacy over class struggle: Left-wing politics center on class conflict and the abolition of social classes. Hitler explicitly rejected this, arguing that race and the supremacy of the "Aryan" nation mattered more than economic class. [1, 2]
- Alliances with traditional elites: Hitler rose to power through coalitions with conservative nationalists, monarchists, and military leaders who viewed him as a useful tool to crush the political left and stabilize Germany. [1, 2]
QP!
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Your own citation PROVES you do not understand what the words Subjective versus Objective mean....
“Subjective” vs. “Objective”: What’s The Difference? | Dictionary.com
Has someone ever asked for your objective opinion? Or said that something is “entirely subjective”? The words subjective and objective are used in all kinds of contexts, from journalism to science to grammar, and they’re often discussed as opposites. But what do they actually mean? In most...
Comparing Hitler's regime to nothing but Hitler's regime means nothing. That is what you are doing.
A discussion on whether Hitler is right wing or left wing is SUBJECTIVE by default. It is dealing in definitions created by man, that are subjective, have some fluidity and not everyone will agree upon.
At no point, NONE, is a question of 'was HItler right or left wing' a OBJECTIVE discussion not, AS YOU OWN LINK SAYS TERRY "..,.Objective most commonly means not influenced by an individual’s personal viewpoint..."
This entire discussion is BY DEFAULT influenced by individuals views right down to which definitions APPLY and which ones do not.
YOu need to try and be less stupid and try to understand big words you try to use and then stop doing it, as you ALWAYS get them wrong.
Into the Night
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There is no Lake Ontario, Hugo.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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You don't get to speak for everyone, Hugo. Omniscience fallacy.
Into the Night
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Random cliche. Random words. No apparent coherency.
T. A. Gardner
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Depends. Your question is too broad to answer.
It is clear that I was referring to the French Revolution. Those who opposed Monarchy sat on the left.