Moral relativism

These are basic examples of behaviors that are largely viewed as immoral, but nobody here can say why?
Because you are assuming the term "immoral" which is what you are trying to prove. I have tried to explain this many times to no avail.
 
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Because you are assuming the term "immoral" which is what you are trying to prove. I have tried to explain this many times to no avail.
So you REALLY cant figure out why murder is immoral and why any mentally healthy person doesnt want to be murdered?
 
I'm just trying to get someone to answer one of a couple of very simple questions.

It's never easy for "command style" morality people to explain why something is wrong. They have to admit it is because they were "told" it mystically by an intelligence beyond space and time.

For those of us with a more secular view it's a no-brainer. Murder is wrong because it destabilizes the social network that provides a survival advantage to a social animal like a human.
 
It's never easy for "command style" morality people to explain why something is wrong. They have to admit it is because they were "told" it mystically by an intelligence beyond space and time.

For those of us with a more secular view it's a no-brainer. Murder is wrong because it destabilizes the social network that provides a survival advantage to a social animal like a human.
Its quite easy to explain why something like murder is wrong and its modern day gum flapping to say murder is wrong, "...because it destabilizes the social network that provides a survival advantage to a social animal like a human.". What meaningless drivel. So if someone doesnt give a shit about your "social network" you're basically screwed because you dont have the intellectual energy to consider why murder is actually wrong and it has nothing to do with a "social network".
 
Because you are assuming the term "immoral" which is what you are trying to prove. I have tried to explain this many times to no avail.
I'm not assuming anything. You and I, until you "changed your mind" already agreed the FGM is immoral and we agreed why.
 
It's never easy for "command style" morality people to explain why something is wrong. They have to admit it is because they were "told" it mystically by an intelligence beyond space and time.

For those of us with a more secular view it's a no-brainer. Murder is wrong because it destabilizes the social network that provides a survival advantage to a social animal like a human.
And because you are denying someone the right to live, experience pleasure, joy, happiness, etc.
 
I'm not assuming anything. You and I, until you "changed your mind" already agreed the FGM is immoral and we agreed why.
What a contemporary physicist says about relativity: "Reality is always seen from a perspective and is what it looks like with respect to a perspective, with respect to me, with respect to you. With respect to each perspective, things are different. "

 
I'm not assuming anything. You and I, until you "changed your mind" already agreed the FGM is immoral and we agreed why.
"Reality is much more complicated than a single foundation. Reality, it’s, I think, a rich interwoven fabric of knowledge we have about it and knowledge we have about one another. And it’s this network of reciprocal knowledge that makes reality.

 
What a contemporary physicist says about relativity: "Reality is always seen from a perspective and is what it looks like with respect to a perspective, with respect to me, with respect to you. With respect to each perspective, things are different. "

When you're talking about specific actions, the only perspective that matters is that of the victim, something we agreed on in regard to FGM.
 
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