Just saw the1970's movie, The Conformist
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Yakuda
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WCM
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You are clearly:
- slanderous
- childish
- crass
- unable to provide any facts to support anything that you say
WCM
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Ouch.
He is disliked equally from both sides of the aisle? That's no simple feat.
Now I feel kind of sorry for him. I'm honestly going to make an effort to be kind to him.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
WCM
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If I could chime in here...
The Big Pharma/FDA tag team. And you can probably add NAIAD and the CDC in there as well, as well as doctors and medical associations where doctors are allowed to receive kickbacks for prescribing you medication without disclosing their conflicts of interest. As well as congressmen, who are allowed to invest in pharmaceuticals that are being approved by the FDA, and who have insight into what's in the approval process due to their "oversight" role.
CEO's and board members are recycled and swapped between the FDA and Big Pharma as if it's no big deal, and yet the FDA is supposed to be protecting consumers... from... Big Pharma. If the CEO's and board members are all friends, are they really on "opposite" sides?
It's truly disgusting just how intertwined the FDA/CDC/NAIAD/Big Pharma/Congress/Medical Boards/Doctors truly are. It's them vs the little guys. Canada is basically the same. Big pharma owns our doctors.
WCM
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I really liked your mom.
(See? What did I tell you, Hume. I'm being kind to him now)
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
1. The point was that America supported an authoritarian/fascist regime and broke its own laws in trying to re-establish it. That is historical fact (Iran-Contra scandal). Uou have to prove your assertion of regarding Healthcare & literacy for the people.
2. Your revisionist blather is pitiful. Here's a reality check:
T. A. Gardner
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The current US President wanted the Sandinistas out, not a return to Somoza. The primary reason was that the Sandinistas had started supporting and infiltrating anti-government, radical Leftist, movements in neighboring countries with the intent to overthrow their current governments.
A Democrat led Congress refused to do anything to support that, just as they had fucked away S. Vietnam roughly a decade earlier.
That also doesn't change that the Sandinistas were building a huge conventional military force unprecedented in size for a Central American country.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
you're all drug dealing liar thugs.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
You imbecile! The Contras WERE the Somoza gov't out of power. Do you're damn homework and get educated before your fingers hit the keys!
And here's lies the problem.
When I put something forward, I can reference and/or link to readily available, historically accurate information to support what I'm stating.
You, on the other hand, make all types of claims and statements as if they are fact. And when asked to provide facts based on valid sources and documentation, you just double down on your tactic.
I've tried to school you time and again that your opinions, supposition and conjecture are NOT the equal of the aforementioned. But like some petulant child, you just keep pushing the same old nonsense with elaborations but no proof. This is why I put you on the ignore list periodically, because your insipid stubbornness is just not worth giving attention to. So see you in a month or so, unless something really exceptional comes up
T. A. Gardner
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Let's see:
Somoza: Three WW 2 Sherman tanks, about two dozen WW 2 Staghound armored cars, some WW 2 US halftracks, and 6 artillery pieces, and about 7,000 personnel. An air force with a few antiquated, Korean war era AT 33 jet trainers and a motely assortment of light aircraft and small transport planes.
Sandinistas:
110 T 55 tanks
30 PT 76 light tanks
250 BRDM, BTR 152, and BTR 60 armored personnel carriers
30 BR 21 self-propelled multiple rocket launchers
60 D 30 122mm and D 20 152mm heavy artillery pieces
Amphibious assault bridging and ferries for river crossings
Chemical warfare decontamination tanker trucks
75 tanker trucks to allow refueling of advancing armored columns.
400 light and medium antiaircraft guns.
An air force of
4 SF 260 light attack jets
12 Mi 24 Hind attack helicopters
6 AN 26 twin turboprop medium transport planes
40 Mi 8 Hip heavy transport helicopters
12 Mig 23 supersonic jet fighters (in Cuba for pilot training)
Total active duty military forces rises to over 75,000 men, representing more military personnel than all of Nicaragua's neighboring countries militaries combined.
Sandinista Military Build-Up 1979-1987 | PDF | Sandinista National Liberation Front | Military Science
The document summarizes the military buildup of Nicaragua by the Sandinista government since taking power in 1979. It details how the Sandinistas grew their small guerrilla army into a large professional military with over 74,000 active duty forces and 120,000 total personnel by 1987, receiving...
The Sandinista Revolution, Reconsidered - JSTOR Daily
A new book from historian Mateo Jarquín seeks to decouple Nicaragua’s unique socialist uprising from reductive Cold War clichés.
daily.jstor.org
The Sandinistas were good at propaganda, but actions speak louder. They were setting up to invade and turn their neighbors into client states given the mass of arms and manpower they were pouring into a military. On top of that, they were doing the usual sops to the masses in propaganda, indoctrination, and intimidation to ensure they held onto power.
QP!
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Once again, in a need to put ALL BLAME ON THE LEFT while fending off ALL BLAME FROM THE RIGHT, you post nothing that is factually accurate or true. Your prior post also was filled with lies and misinformation.
You are using real regional history to excuse a completely separate constitutional crime.
Nobody denies that the Soviet-backed Sandinistas built up an unprecedentedly large 80,000-man military or that they actively smuggled weapons to leftist rebels in El Salvador.
But Congress didn't refuse to act because they 'fucked away' anything. Congress refused to fund the Contras because the Contras were a murderous militia committing horrific civilian massacres and human rights violations.
Under the U.S. Constitution, Congress holds the absolute 'Power of the Purse.' They passed the legally binding Boland Amendments, making it a federal crime for the U.S. government to fund the Contras.
The Iran-Contra scandal happened because the Reagan administration decided they were above the law. They secretly sold weapons to Iran (a terrorist-sponsor state) and illegally funneled the profits to the Contras to bypass Congress.
You can't claim you're defending 'democracy' abroad while completely subverting the U.S. Constitution and committing federal felonies at home to hide your actions from the American public.
T. A. Gardner
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QP!
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Irrelevant to the point.
The actions done by THE REPUBLICANS were illegal and saying "Sandinistas were bad too" does not change that. And does not make the Democrats the ones who fucked that up. That was Republicans.