5th Circuit rules illegal aliens have no right to bail

T. A. Gardner

T. A. Gardner

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Score another victory for getting rid of people here illegally!


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Fifth Circuit Immigration Detention Ruling a Major Setback for Due Process

The Fifth Circuit immigration detention ruling denies immigrants access to bond hearings, raising serious concerns about constitutional rights.
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The court said, paraphrasing, that those illegally here always have a way out of detention, and that is to self-deport. They also made it clear they have no right to be let loose in the US as that is why they are in detention to begin with.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Score another victory for getting rid of people here illegally!


www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Fifth Circuit Immigration Detention Ruling a Major Setback for Due Process

The Fifth Circuit immigration detention ruling denies immigrants access to bond hearings, raising serious concerns about constitutional rights.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The court said, paraphrasing, that those illegally here always have a way out of detention, and that is to self-deport. They also made it clear they have no right to be let loose in the US as that is why they are in detention to begin with.
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And?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Score another victory for getting rid of people here illegally!


www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Fifth Circuit Immigration Detention Ruling a Major Setback for Due Process

The Fifth Circuit immigration detention ruling denies immigrants access to bond hearings, raising serious concerns about constitutional rights.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The court said, paraphrasing, that those illegally here always have a way out of detention, and that is to self-deport. They also made it clear they have no right to be let loose in the US as that is why they are in detention to begin with.
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Isn't that unconstitutional?
 
AProudLefty said:
Isn't that unconstitutional?
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No. First, because they have no right to be in the US. That means they can be held until trial as both a flight risk and on grounds they are benefiting from being let into the US which is why they're in jail to begin with. In other words, releasing them on bail or their own recognizance simply furthers the crime for which they were arrested and jailed to begin with.

Second, they have recourse. They can deport themselves rather than go through the immigration process and be deported.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No. First, because they have no right to be in the US. That means they can be held until trial as both a flight risk and on grounds they are benefiting from being let into the US which is why they're in jail to begin with. In other words, releasing them on bail or their own recognizance simply furthers the crime for which they were arrested and jailed to begin with.

Second, they have recourse. They can deport themselves rather than go through the immigration process and be deported.
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"...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No. First, because they have no right to be in the US. That means they can be held until trial as both a flight risk and on grounds they are benefiting from being let into the US which is why they're in jail to begin with. In other words, releasing them on bail or their own recognizance simply furthers the crime for which they were arrested and jailed to begin with.

Second, they have recourse. They can deport themselves rather than go through the immigration process and be deported.
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Every person in the US has a right to fair treatment under the law. If they are here, they have a right to due process.
 
Nordberg said:
Every person in the US has a right to fair treatment under the law. If they are here, they have a right to due process.
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Another in the seemingly endless ridiculous posts by this clown ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sickeningly weak and stupid. Probably a cavern cunt pretending to be a man here.
 
Nordberg said:
Every person in the US has a right to fair treatment under the law. If they are here, they have a right to due process.
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And, in the case of illegal aliens, that doesn't include bail. They get their hearing regardless. They just sit in detention until that happens.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That eliminates bail hearings. That streamlines the process towards deportation. It also incentivizes self-deportation and not coming to begin with.
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You really think some family who has trekked across several other nations in hostile environments to get to the US is going rethink their plans because they can get bail?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Score another victory for getting rid of people here illegally!


www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Fifth Circuit Immigration Detention Ruling a Major Setback for Due Process

The Fifth Circuit immigration detention ruling denies immigrants access to bond hearings, raising serious concerns about constitutional rights.
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The court said, paraphrasing, that those illegally here always have a way out of detention, and that is to self-deport. They also made it clear they have no right to be let loose in the US as that is why they are in detention to begin with.
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ahh all of us together again on the issues that matter.

so cute.
 
archives said:
You really think some family who has trekked across several other nations in hostile environments to get to the US is going rethink their plans because they can get bail?
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Families don't go to immigration hearings, individuals do. For someone who has been in the US for say a decade or more, has a job (probably illegally), and is established here, being released on bail for months until their hearing is a reprieve that lets them continue with their ongoing criminal enterprise--that is, living in, working a job, etc., the US. In fact, bail legitimizes them doing so to a good degree. If that person skips bail, they might avoid deportation for several more years beyond that.

By denying an illegal bail, you end their criminal enterprise in the US until they have their 'due process' and are then deported.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Families don't go to immigration hearings, individuals do. For someone who has been in the US for say a decade or more, has a job (probably illegally), and is established here, being released on bail for months until their hearing is a reprieve that lets them continue with their ongoing criminal enterprise--that is, living in, working a job, etc., the US. In fact, bail legitimizes them doing so to a good degree. If that person skips bail, they might avoid deportation for several more years beyond that.

By denying an illegal bail, you end their criminal enterprise in the US until they have their 'due process' and are then deported.
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we will always have illegal immigration to bond on!
 
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