The controversy surrounding Trump’s pardons goes from bad to worse

signalmankenneth

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I would like see the power to pardon taken away from future presidents, it been badly misused by Trump?!!
Trump has pardoned the scum of the earth in Jan 6th criminals and numerous white collar criminals for financial gain?!!

The White House has confronted questions for months about whether presidential pardons are effectively for sale. Those questions just got louder.

As the first year of Donald Trump’s second term progressed, and the list of scandalous presidential pardons grew, the White House confronted a question without modern precedent: Were pardons effectively for sale?

The question became unavoidable after the Republican started rewarding generous donors with clemency, culminating in a Wall Street Journal report, published shortly before Christmas, that described a dynamic that has “spawned a pardon-shopping industry where lobbyists say their going rate is $1 million. Pardon-seekers have offered some lobbyists close to the president success fees of as much as $6 million if they can close the deal, according to people familiar with the offers.”

Last week, these concerns reached a new level. The New York Times reported:

In late 2024, while [Julio Herrera Velutini, a Venezuelan-Italian banker] was facing felony bribery and other charges in the case, his daughter, Isabela Herrera, donated $2.5 million to MAGA Inc., a super PAC devoted to Mr. Trump and run by his allies.

In May, her father’s lawyer, Christopher M. Kise, who had served on Mr. Trump’s legal defense team, negotiated an unusually lenient deal with the Justice Department. Under the deal, which was authorized by a top Trump appointee, Mr. Herrera agreed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge, disappointing career prosecutors who had pushed for a harsher sentence.

Two months later, Isabela Herrera donated another $1 million to MAGA Inc., culminating in a pardon from Trump late last week. (The White House claimed the political contributions did not lead to the pardon.)


https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-controversy-surrounding-trumps-pardons-goes-from-bad-to-worse

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It would take a constitutional amendment, much like the removal of the right to own and bear arms... Get on it, man.
Or just a Supreme Ruling, as this Supreme Court demonstrated they are willing to do by writing into the American Constitution 'POTUS immunity something Congress could only do via a full Constitutional process involving the States.

I hope a future left tilted SC pays attention to what this SC did and uses that power in the same way to take on many 'left' issues that historically we would have said require a Constitutional Amendment and instead just edit the Constitution from the bench.
 
I would like see the power to pardon taken away from future presidents, it been badly misused by Trump?!!
Trump has pardoned the scum of the earth in Jan 6th criminals and numerous white collar criminals for financial gain?!!

The White House has confronted questions for months about whether presidential pardons are effectively for sale. Those questions just got louder.

As the first year of Donald Trump’s second term progressed, and the list of scandalous presidential pardons grew, the White House confronted a question without modern precedent: Were pardons effectively for sale?

The question became unavoidable after the Republican started rewarding generous donors with clemency, culminating in a Wall Street Journal report, published shortly before Christmas, that described a dynamic that has “spawned a pardon-shopping industry where lobbyists say their going rate is $1 million. Pardon-seekers have offered some lobbyists close to the president success fees of as much as $6 million if they can close the deal, according to people familiar with the offers.”

Last week, these concerns reached a new level. The New York Times reported:

In late 2024, while [Julio Herrera Velutini, a Venezuelan-Italian banker] was facing felony bribery and other charges in the case, his daughter, Isabela Herrera, donated $2.5 million to MAGA Inc., a super PAC devoted to Mr. Trump and run by his allies.

In May, her father’s lawyer, Christopher M. Kise, who had served on Mr. Trump’s legal defense team, negotiated an unusually lenient deal with the Justice Department. Under the deal, which was authorized by a top Trump appointee, Mr. Herrera agreed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge, disappointing career prosecutors who had pushed for a harsher sentence.

Two months later, Isabela Herrera donated another $1 million to MAGA Inc., culminating in a pardon from Trump late last week. (The White House claimed the political contributions did not lead to the pardon.)


https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-controversy-surrounding-trumps-pardons-goes-from-bad-to-worse

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Fuck you asshole. You supported the assassination of your president so, fuck you!

BTW, where was all your caterwauling when Brandon was issuing preemptive pardons?
 
Once Trump is gone, Congress will have to review lots of presidential powers. Trump has ignored the presidential limitations and has done exactly what he wants. He dares you to stop him. The pardoning power will have to be changed. Trump has abused the fuck out of it. It appears the founders thought that our presidents would be gentlemen who respect the nation and the limitations of the presidency. Trump has blown that all up. Future presidents will have to be constrained. Nixon and Trump believed in the unlimited powers of the president. Neither ended well.
 
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