There’s still no ‘there’ there in the Russia probe

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Peter Strzok, an FBI agent who called President Trump an “idiot” and rooted against him in 2016, was nevertheless reluctant to join the investigation of possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russians who sought to influence the presidential election.

Strzok, who was removed from the probe after his anti-Trump comments came to light, expressed his qualms in a May 19 text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, his girlfriend at the time: “I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big ‘there’ there.”

It is looking more and more like Strzok’s gut was right. The FBI’s surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee criticize in a memo declassified last week, shows investigators putting a lot of time and effort into a line of inquiry that apparently led nowhere.

Given the low legal bar for wiretapping suspected foreign agents, it seems likely the FBI could’ve obtained permission to wiretap Page even without the evidence that the memo portrays as questionable and tainted by partisan bias. But that doesn’t mean the bureau’s investigation of Page, an oil-industry consultant known for his pro-Russian views, was fruitful.

The FBI questioned Page in 2013 about his encounter with a Russian intelligence agent (who he apparently did not realize was a spy) and reportedly monitored his conversations in 2014.

In October 2016, after press coverage of Page’s chumminess with the Russian government led him to part ways with the Trump campaign, the FBI obtained a new warrant, which lasted 90 days and was renewed three times, meaning he was under FBI surveillance for a full year.

Despite all this interest in Page, a peripheral figure in the Trump campaign who served as a foreign-policy adviser for half a year, he was never charged with a crime. Two other Trump associates, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and former campaign consultant George Papadopoulos, have admitted to lying to the FBI about direct or indirect contacts with Russian officials. But the contacts themselves were not illegal.

Neither was Don Jr.’s June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer who claimed to have dirt on Hillary Clinton. Although former Trump strategist Stephen Bannon called that meeting “treasonous,” it clearly didn’t meet the legal definition of treason, which involves giving aid and comfort to an enemy at war with the United States.

Some of Trump’s opponents argue that by agreeing to the meeting, Don Jr. knowingly solicited a campaign contribution from a foreigner, which would be illegal. That seems like quite a stretch.

It’s even harder to see how the president’s role in crafting a misleading public statement about the meeting with Veselnitskaya — a subject in which special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly has shown a keen interest — violated any laws. If lying to the public were a crime, Trump would be eligible for a life sentence.

Lying to federal investigators is a different matter, as Lynch and Papadopoulos discovered. That explains why several of Trump’s lawyers are advising him against agreeing to an open-ended interview with Mueller, which would give the president ample opportunity to commit a felony, even if only to deny knowledge of contacts that look shady but were not actually criminal.

It’s less clear whether a president can commit obstruction of justice by doing things he has undisputed legal authority to do, such as firing the FBI director. In practice, since it is doubtful whether a sitting president can be indicted, a president’s obstruction of justice (which figured prominently in the impeachment of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton) is whatever Congress says it is.

The current Congress, controlled by the president’s party, has shown little interest in exploring the matter. That’s unlikely to change unless Mueller finds a “there” — something more than the meta-crimes he has already revealed or might trick Trump into committing.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/theres-still-no-there-there-in-the-russia-probe/
 
Mueller will be fired and a legitimate investigation will produce pertinent information which will not be disclosed to you and the legitimate doj will do what we do not need to know to try to thwart any further past negative influences in us elections. the Russians interjected genuine good influence in the 2016 elections. if Hillary had been elected, we would probably have the UN tearing down monuments and murdering thousands of hungry people in the streets every day by now. shariah law would be implemented and even you stupid Hillary supporters would know the error of your delusions by now. the praisekek guy is correct: any and everything; including the Flynn and any other pleas/ indictments are "fruit of the poisoned tree". I just recently learned this from a well informed jpp poster. case dismissed. now; time for criminal prosecutions of the real criminals. maybe. if not, damned is the usa . as a russin troll; I appreciate some of the contributions my fellows made in 2016. good job. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/social-media-ads-russia-wanted-americans-to-see-244423 . if the deep state is subdued; I hope for productive relations with the Russians. I am russin troll. I was a trump troll and did not vote. If trump weaponized the electoral demographic as the unlawful and illegitimate demdacrat party indeed did. ? everyone is paying for unlawful damnedacrat campaign propaganda through PBS and all maindamned mediers. taxpayers are paying these people to punk you. I would never praise kek
 
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Mueller will be fired and a legitimate investigation will produce pertinent information which will not be disclosed to you and the legitimate doj will do what we do not need to know to try to thwart any further past negative influences in us elections. the Russians interjected genuine good influence in the 2016 elections. if Hillary had been elected, we would probably have the UN tearing down monuments and murdering thousands of hungry people in the streets every day by now. shariah law would be implemented and even you stupid Hillary supporters would know the error of your delusions by now. the praisekek guy is correct: any and everything; including the Flynn and any other pleas/ indictments are "fruit of the poisoned tree". I just recently learned this from a well informed jpp poster. case dismissed. now; time for criminal prosecutions of the real criminals. maybe. if not, damned is the usa . as a russin troll; I appreciate some of the contributions my fellows made in 2016. good job. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/social-media-ads-russia-wanted-americans-to-see-244423 . if the deep state is subdued; I hope for productive relations with the Russians. I am russin troll.


no your 're a communist lying fool like your god trumpie the king of the russian con men
 
It sounds more like you're trying to convince yourself than anything.

I really don't know. They might have nothing - it also might be the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.

Seems more like a good time for popcorn. We'll know soon enough. But threads like this are all speculation.
 
It sounds more like you're trying to convince yourself than anything.

I really don't know. They might have nothing - it also might be the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.

Seems more like a good time for popcorn. We'll know soon enough. But threads like this are all speculation.

Oh the irony lol.

The whole of the Russian conspiracy theory *is rooted* in speculation. With every revelation it becomes more apparent that, yet again, Trump will be vindicated for one of his supposedly outlandish claims.

It is a witch hunt.
 
Peter Strzok, an FBI agent who called President Trump an “idiot” and rooted against him in 2016, was nevertheless reluctant to join the investigation of possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russians who sought to influence the presidential election.

Strzok, who was removed from the probe after his anti-Trump comments came to light, expressed his qualms in a May 19 text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, his girlfriend at the time: “I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big ‘there’ there.”

It is looking more and more like Strzok’s gut was right. The FBI’s surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee criticize in a memo declassified last week, shows investigators putting a lot of time and effort into a line of inquiry that apparently led nowhere.

Given the low legal bar for wiretapping suspected foreign agents, it seems likely the FBI could’ve obtained permission to wiretap Page even without the evidence that the memo portrays as questionable and tainted by partisan bias. But that doesn’t mean the bureau’s investigation of Page, an oil-industry consultant known for his pro-Russian views, was fruitful.

The FBI questioned Page in 2013 about his encounter with a Russian intelligence agent (who he apparently did not realize was a spy) and reportedly monitored his conversations in 2014.

In October 2016, after press coverage of Page’s chumminess with the Russian government led him to part ways with the Trump campaign, the FBI obtained a new warrant, which lasted 90 days and was renewed three times, meaning he was under FBI surveillance for a full year.

Despite all this interest in Page, a peripheral figure in the Trump campaign who served as a foreign-policy adviser for half a year, he was never charged with a crime. Two other Trump associates, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and former campaign consultant George Papadopoulos, have admitted to lying to the FBI about direct or indirect contacts with Russian officials. But the contacts themselves were not illegal.

Neither was Don Jr.’s June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer who claimed to have dirt on Hillary Clinton. Although former Trump strategist Stephen Bannon called that meeting “treasonous,” it clearly didn’t meet the legal definition of treason, which involves giving aid and comfort to an enemy at war with the United States.

Some of Trump’s opponents argue that by agreeing to the meeting, Don Jr. knowingly solicited a campaign contribution from a foreigner, which would be illegal. That seems like quite a stretch.

It’s even harder to see how the president’s role in crafting a misleading public statement about the meeting with Veselnitskaya — a subject in which special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly has shown a keen interest — violated any laws. If lying to the public were a crime, Trump would be eligible for a life sentence.

Lying to federal investigators is a different matter, as Lynch and Papadopoulos discovered. That explains why several of Trump’s lawyers are advising him against agreeing to an open-ended interview with Mueller, which would give the president ample opportunity to commit a felony, even if only to deny knowledge of contacts that look shady but were not actually criminal.

It’s less clear whether a president can commit obstruction of justice by doing things he has undisputed legal authority to do, such as firing the FBI director. In practice, since it is doubtful whether a sitting president can be indicted, a president’s obstruction of justice (which figured prominently in the impeachment of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton) is whatever Congress says it is.

The current Congress, controlled by the president’s party, has shown little interest in exploring the matter. That’s unlikely to change unless Mueller finds a “there” — something more than the meta-crimes he has already revealed or might trick Trump into committing.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/theres-still-no-there-there-in-the-russia-probe/

Maybe IG Horowitz will investigate the FBI’s treatment of Carter Page.

Page was an employee of the FBI before he allegedly became a Russian agent. IOW, he was a US spy working in Russia and helped to indict a Russian that was involved in an energy-related conspiracy.

Obviously, Carter Page would have Russian contacts.

Did they flip the script on Page when they needed a pretext to surveil the Trump campaign? News Flash to the Impeachment Enthusiasts: that’s a much bigger deal than any of Trump’s ‘scandals’.
 
Oh the irony lol.

The whole of the Russian conspiracy theory *is rooted* in speculation. With every revelation it becomes more apparent that, yet again, Trump will be vindicated for one of his supposedly outlandish claims.

It is a witch hunt.
..done by a fishing expedition..
 
Oh the irony lol.

The whole of the Russian conspiracy theory *is rooted* in speculation. With every revelation it becomes more apparent that, yet again, Trump will be vindicated for one of his supposedly outlandish claims.

It is a witch hunt.

That's the best part, though. You keep saying this, over & over again - but you have absolutely no idea whatsoever.

You still think that investigations release all of their evidence to the public as soon as they have it.
 
Peter Strzok, an FBI agent who called President Trump an “idiot” and rooted against him in 2016, was nevertheless reluctant to join the investigation of possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russians who sought to influence the presidential election.

Strzok, who was removed from the probe after his anti-Trump comments came to light, expressed his qualms in a May 19 text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, his girlfriend at the time: “I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big ‘there’ there.”

It is looking more and more like Strzok’s gut was right. The FBI’s surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee criticize in a memo declassified last week, shows investigators putting a lot of time and effort into a line of inquiry that apparently led nowhere.

Given the low legal bar for wiretapping suspected foreign agents, it seems likely the FBI could’ve obtained permission to wiretap Page even without the evidence that the memo portrays as questionable and tainted by partisan bias. But that doesn’t mean the bureau’s investigation of Page, an oil-industry consultant known for his pro-Russian views, was fruitful.

The FBI questioned Page in 2013 about his encounter with a Russian intelligence agent (who he apparently did not realize was a spy) and reportedly monitored his conversations in 2014.

In October 2016, after press coverage of Page’s chumminess with the Russian government led him to part ways with the Trump campaign, the FBI obtained a new warrant, which lasted 90 days and was renewed three times, meaning he was under FBI surveillance for a full year.

Despite all this interest in Page, a peripheral figure in the Trump campaign who served as a foreign-policy adviser for half a year, he was never charged with a crime. Two other Trump associates, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and former campaign consultant George Papadopoulos, have admitted to lying to the FBI about direct or indirect contacts with Russian officials. But the contacts themselves were not illegal.

Neither was Don Jr.’s June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer who claimed to have dirt on Hillary Clinton. Although former Trump strategist Stephen Bannon called that meeting “treasonous,” it clearly didn’t meet the legal definition of treason, which involves giving aid and comfort to an enemy at war with the United States.

Some of Trump’s opponents argue that by agreeing to the meeting, Don Jr. knowingly solicited a campaign contribution from a foreigner, which would be illegal. That seems like quite a stretch.

It’s even harder to see how the president’s role in crafting a misleading public statement about the meeting with Veselnitskaya — a subject in which special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly has shown a keen interest — violated any laws. If lying to the public were a crime, Trump would be eligible for a life sentence.

Lying to federal investigators is a different matter, as Lynch and Papadopoulos discovered. That explains why several of Trump’s lawyers are advising him against agreeing to an open-ended interview with Mueller, which would give the president ample opportunity to commit a felony, even if only to deny knowledge of contacts that look shady but were not actually criminal.

It’s less clear whether a president can commit obstruction of justice by doing things he has undisputed legal authority to do, such as firing the FBI director. In practice, since it is doubtful whether a sitting president can be indicted, a president’s obstruction of justice (which figured prominently in the impeachment of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton) is whatever Congress says it is.

The current Congress, controlled by the president’s party, has shown little interest in exploring the matter. That’s unlikely to change unless Mueller finds a “there” — something more than the meta-crimes he has already revealed or might trick Trump into committing.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/theres-still-no-there-there-in-the-russia-probe/

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Just one more attempt by the left to get rid of Trump.

LEFT WING FAILURES:
Recounts in selected states
Electoral college vote switch
Riots
Grouping women
Lying
Phone Taps
And the list goes on. Now the porn star (Hubba Hubba, have you seen her?) scandal.

Only time will tell.
 
Words cannot save your lord n master, no matter how many of them you write/read/copy/post.

Sorry.

Jesus Christ doesn't need saving. But what does He have to do with Meuller's witch hunt? I mean, other than the fact that Meuller will have to answer to Him someday.
 
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