Bye Bye Republican Party

cawacko said:
Completely changed their stance on trade from the 2012 platform. Completely changed how's it's been for years.
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change is a good thing sometimes :) Maybe the party for you is the democrats. They are the free trade pro outsourcing party now.
 
cawacko said:
We used to be pro-growth and pro-trade. Guess that's largely out the window.
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Sometimes protection of US business from foreign competition is necessary. Remember in the 80's when FedCo protected Harley Davidson by charging a tariff on foreign motorcycles over 700cc? It didn't last long, and gave HD a little time to catch up. Now their bikes are coveted not just in the US, but in the same foreign markets that were targeted.

Besides, I think Trumps policies are to reduce corporate taxes to the levels of other countries, so US companies can compete fairly.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I have no idea what a "nationalist" is.....does that mean you think you should live in a nation?.......most of us do.......
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it means i think we need to do whats best for america first. Doesnt matter whether the idea comes from the right or the left. Basically the end is more important than how we get there.
 
tsuke said:
it means i think we need to do whats best for america first. Doesnt matter whether the idea comes from the right or the left. Basically the end is more important than how we get there.
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lol.....I have bad news.....the right and the left don't agree on what is best for America......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....I have bad news.....the right and the left don't agree on what is best for America......
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which is why I pick and choose the best from both sides. The protection for workers is good on the left as well as ss while the muslim worship is bad while the resistance to national minimum wage is good on the right as well but the outsourcing and strict religousness is bad.

why do you think the repubs say trump is not conservative enough while libs say he is too conservative? :) its because he gets the best ideas from both sides.
 
tsuke said:
change is a good thing sometimes :) Maybe the party for you is the democrats. They are the free trade pro outsourcing party now.
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Democrats are the free trade party when you have Bernie Sanders against all trade deals and he forced former free trade supporter Hillary Clinton to the left where she is now against the TPP trade deal she helped negotiate?
 
cawacko said:
Democrats are the free trade party when you have Bernie Sanders against all trade deals and he forced former free trade supporter Hillary Clinton to the left where she is now against the TPP trade deal she helped negotiate?
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Huh?
 
cawacko said:
Democrats are the free trade party when you have Bernie Sanders against all trade deals and he forced former free trade supporter Hillary Clinton to the left where she is now against the TPP trade deal she helped negotiate?
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dont worry we all know clinton will sign the tpp day one :) anti tpp is not even in the dem platform. If you love free trade and outsourcing vote dem :)
 
cawacko said:
Smiley faces don't hide lies
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see you can defend clinton already even when its obvious what she will do :) You will make a great democrat! Its good though. We cant have both parties love free trade and outsourcing. One party has to stand up for the workers :)
 
tsuke said:
see you can defend clinton already even when its obvious what she will do :) You will make a great democrat! Its good though. We cant have both parties love free trade and outsourcing. One party has to stand up for the workers :)
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Do you fancy yourself T. Boone Pickens or something and trying to relive the glory days of '80's takeovers?
 
cawacko said:
Do you fancy yourself T. Boone Pickens or something and trying to relive the glory days of '80's takeovers?
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just a nationalist relieved that were finally headed back to the party of lincoln and eisenhower as opposed to the party of Bush.

POP QUIZ! who said this

"If in 10 years US troops are still in Europe then this whole Nato project would have failed"

Sounds like some wackjob wants to withdraw from europe! Isolationist!
 
tsuke said:
just a nationalist relieved that were finally headed back to the party of lincoln and eisenhower as opposed to the party of Bush.

POP QUIZ! who said this

"If in 10 years US troops are still in Europe then this whole Nato project would have failed"

Sounds like some wackjob wants to withdraw from europe! Isolationist!
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No wonder Trump's "Make America Great Again" tag appeals to you. Take our country back 70 years to a completely different economic time.

Pull out of NATO? That would do wonders for us right? Our economy would flourish cutting ourselves off from the rest of the world correct?
 
cawacko said:
We used to be pro-growth and pro-trade. Guess that's largely out the window.




GOP Platform Panel Moves Toward Trump’s Positions on Trade, Immigration

Committee adopts ‘America First’ trade language, tougher stand on illegal immigration and China relations


A Republican Party panel on Tuesday adopted policy language that largely adheres to presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump’s protectionist view of foreign trade and immigration, moving the platform closer to its presumptive nominee and away from positions long held by party leaders.

The GOP Platform Committee’s document represents a stark and formal change from the party’s recent history, calling for an “America First” policy toward trade deals that echoes Mr. Trump’s campaign slogan and instituting harsh penalties for illegal immigration.

The 112 Platform Committee delegates refrained from taking a position on the North American Free Trade Agreement or the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a major pending trade agreement among 12 Pacific Rim nations that Mr. Trump has pledged to kill. Language opposing enacting the TPP while President Barack Obama is in office was stripped from a draft document on Monday.

Instead delegates on the GOP’s Platform Committee backed general language condemning trade deficits while calling international trade “crucial.” The final document is likely be approved by the full Republican National Convention when it convenes here next week.

“We need better negotiated trade agreements that put America first,” the platform reads. “We cannot allow foreign governments to limit American access to their markets while stealing our designs, patents, brands, know-how and technology.”


Mr. Trump laid out his own “America First” policy during a June trade speech that called for pulling out of Nafta and killing the TPP.

In a sign of the fear of establishment Republicans of Mr. Trump’s potential influence on the platform, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce considered it a victory that the platform won’t contain any language about Nafta or TPP.

“This aside, the chamber’s message on trade is a consistent one,” spokeswoman Blair Holmes said. “Trade is beneficial to jobs, growth, opportunity, and American competitiveness.”

Delegates also adopted platform language calling for a five-year prison sentence for any undocumented immigrant caught trying to return to the country illegally after being deported. The committee approved an amendment on the matter that was sponsored by Joe Gruters, the state co-chairman of Mr. Trump’s campaign in Florida.

The committee briefly debated what such a measure would cost federal taxpayers but in the end dismissed such concerns.

“Illegal immigration is costing us unimaginable amounts of money and I don’t think this adds to that,” said delegate Ben Marchi of Maryland.

After a draft platform prepared by RNC staffers called for “construction of a physical barrier” “at our vulnerable borders,” subcommittee delegates altered the language to call specifically for a wall, as Mr. Trump has demanded.

The platform also states that refugees “that cannot be carefully vetted cannot be admitted to the country, especially those whose homelands have been the breeding grounds for terrorism.” Mr. Trump has called for forbidding Syrian refugees from entering the country.

The party’s 2012 platform made no mention of political refugees, and its 2013 report explaining the party’s loss in the presidential campaign called specifically for Republicans to embrace comprehensive immigration reform to help win support from Hispanic voters.

Mr. Trump is under no obligation to follow the party platform, a document that describes the party’s core policy positions, values and beliefs. Past nominees such as Mitt Romney, John McCain and Bob Dole ignored or opposed large segments of the party’s official platform.

Four years ago, the party’s platform enthusiastically embraced multilateral trade agreements broadly and specifically called for adopting the Pacific Rim trade deal. Then, Republicans placed their trust in American workers to outperform foreign competitors.

“Because American workers have shown that, on a truly level playing field, they can surpass the competition in international trade, we call for the restoration of presidential Trade Promotion Authority,” read the 2012 Republican platform, which remains on the party’s website. “A Republican President will complete negotiations for a Trans-Pacific Partnership to open rapidly developing Asian markets to U.S. products.”

The new document’s language is also far tougher on China. In 2012, the party said a Republican president would “insist on full parity in trade with China and stand ready to impose countervailing duties if China fails to amend its currency policies.”

Now the party’s platform has taken any ambiguity out of how it sees the nation’s relationship with China. The 2016 platform explicitly states that China manipulates its currency and laments Obama administration policy toward the country.

“We cannot allow China to continue its currency manipulation, exclusion of U.S. products from government purchases, and subsidization of Chinese companies to thwart American imports,” the new platform states. “The current administration’s way of dealing with these violations of world trade standards has been a virtual surrender.”

The Platform Committee’s meetings are expected to conclude Tuesday afternoon.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-platform-panel-adopts-america-first-trade-language-1468334050
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Definitely a post from a guy who is pro Trump and has no principles. Any liberals start any pro or anti Bernie trade threads during the primary? Or any Bernie threads at all?
 
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