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Rana said:
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The officer who shot an unarmed black man in North Miami this week did so accidentally after aiming at another man who turned out to be an autistic patient holding a toy truck, according to the police union representing the officer.

John Rivera, president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, said during a press conference that a North Miami police officer felt Charles Kinsey's life was in danger when he decided to fire.

Cell phone video shows Kinsey lying on his back with his arms in the air pleading with officers not to fire. Rivera said officers could not hear Kinsey's pleas and believed that the autistic man was holding a gun and was about to fire.

Because of that, the officer was trying to shoot the autistic man, but he missed - and the bullet struck Kinsey instead, according to Rivera.

"Mr. Kinsey did everything right," Rivera said. "What the officer didn't know, the white individual's intentions. He thought Mr. Kinsey was about to be killed."

Rivera said the officer, a member of North Miami's SWAT team, was devastated by the shooting and was acting only to try and save Kinsey.

"This is not a case of police abuse," Rivera said. "This is a case where a police officer was trying to save Mr. Kinsey's life and unfortunately his shot went astray."

During a brief press conference Thursday, North Miami Police Chief Gary Eugene the officer, a 30-year-old Hispanic male who had been with the department four years, was placed on administrative leave - standard procedure following officer-involved shootings. Eugene would not provide further details on the shooting because the case was turned over to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

"While it may seem that this is adding more time to the process, it is indeed the process under Florida law," Eugene said, according to The Miami Herald. "I assure you well will get all the answers."

Rivera asked for members of the public to let the investigation run its course before deciding the fate of the officer who fired at Kinsey. He read a short statement that the officer sent to him in a text message.

"I took this job to save lives and help people," the text read. "I did what I had to do in a split second to accomplish that and hate to hear others paint me as something I am not."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/07/21/north-miami-police-shooting-accidental-union-says/87414898/


I predict that SmarterthanFew will now rant about police training and boast of his own abilities with guns.
 
Legion Troll said:
The officer who shot an unarmed black man in North Miami this week did so accidentally after aiming at another man who turned out to be an autistic patient holding a toy truck, according to the police union representing the officer.

John Rivera, president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, said during a press conference that a North Miami police officer felt Charles Kinsey's life was in danger when he decided to fire.
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the PBA is laying out the get out of jail free card for this inept cop. By putting this 'explanation' out there, the investigators and DA can safely say that this cop was acting reasonably by making a split second decision about saving the life of someone being threatened with something that looked like a weapon. They will then charge the autistic kid with the crime or reckless endangerment because the cop had to shoot.


Legion Troll said:
I predict that SmarterthanFew will now rant about police training and boast of his own abilities with guns.
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I see i'm still living rent free in your addled brain pan. I'm awesome :rofl2:
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the PBA is laying out the get out of jail free card for this inept cop. By putting this 'explanation' out there, the investigators and DA can safely say that this cop was acting reasonably by making a split second decision about saving the life of someone being threatened with something that looked like a weapon. They will then charge the autistic kid with the crime or reckless endangerment because the cop had to shoot.
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You mistakenly shoot people for picking up their own laptops at Starbucks.

Are you really in any position to second guess other people's shootings?
 
Taft2016 said:
He did in a hypothetical scenario I presented him.: my wife leaves her laptop in Starbucks. I get out of the car and go back to get it for her and he shot me. And he still thinks he acted properly.
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He does?

That's incredible. Can you link to the exchange, please, Officer?
 
Taft2016 said:
So you didn't say you'd shoot me for failing to answer to your non-existent authority to stop and question me?
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no, i said i'd shoot you if you made any attempts to flee with a laptop that didn't belong to you or if you resisted with violence. you refused to acknowledge that part. and non existent??? any citizen has the legal authority to prevent crime.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
no, i said i'd shoot you if you made any attempts to flee with a laptop that didn't belong to you or if you resisted with violence. you refused to acknowledge that part. and non existent??? any citizen has the legal authority to prevent crime.
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Except it's not a crime because it's my laptop and you have no authority to stop me on suspicion of committing a crime.
 
So, with the explanation given by the Miami PD, either of these scenarios is true.

A: the explanation is a lie to try and cover for one of their own, who should not be at the end of a gun for government pay.

B: the explanation is true, and the person at the end of a gun for government pay is a horrible shot. And that's giving him the benefit of the doubt on his decision making skills.
 
Also, if he was trying to SAVE the guy laying down, how come they rushed him as soon as he was hit and cuffed him? I mean, did they also rush the autistic guy? Why would they do that without having also hit him, who supposedly had a possible weapon?
 
Taft2016 said:
How did we get to point that the police have become the country's biggest problem?
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You tell us Serpico.
Are there just too many of you?
Is it because of IQ limits in hiring practice?
Is it because you serve the rich and protect them from the poor?
Is it mostly due to institutional racism?
Criminality of bullies with badges?
As simple as good cops such as yourself holding the thin blue line and putting the protection of bad officers ahead of the public good?
Do tell us good Sir.
 
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