Trump was elected by right-wing white people .. and that's the good news.

Mott the Hoople said:
I concur cuz. The ball is in their court. Let them now go and show that they can govern not just for a faction but for all of us. If they can and do, hats off to them but for right now it's a Missouri mule. Show me.
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They are not their to govern for you, you are irredeemable this is no longer your country, choke on it.
 
blackascoal said:
They elected him .. they own him .. and when he breaks, so will they.

His administration will be a disaster, as will his policies .. and if Trump is 1/10th the disaster that the entire world knows that he will be, his disaster will be the disaster of the same right-wing whites who voted his ignorance into office.

He has no mandate .. wasn't even elected by the majority of Americans who voted.

This is an opportunity .. and the Left should resist, resist, and resist every chance they get.

Highlight and illuminate every misstep and failure to great lengths. His every action will be closely watched and critiqued .. and when he fails, economy falters, jobs not coming back as he claimed, point to the morons who elected him.

Treat Trump like the right treated Obama.

The question will be .. how are these idiots supposed to be 'superior' when they elected a clown for president.

We are indeed at war.
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War? you don't want war, have you seen the electoral map! Liberal policies have been repudiated in whole, look at the last three elections, you won a Presidency based on race that's it, and his polices were just thrown under foot when given the opportunity!
 
Wolverine said:
War? you don't want war, have you seen the electoral map! Liberal policies have been repudiated in whole, look at the last three elections, you won a Presidency based on race that's it, and his polices were just thrown under foot when given the opportunity!
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Obama was elected for the same reason Trump was. People repudiated Clinton Inc.
 
Wolverine said:
War? you don't want war, have you seen the electoral map! Liberal policies have been repudiated in whole, look at the last three elections, you won a Presidency based on race that's it, and his polices were just thrown under foot when given the opportunity!
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:0) Here's a novel thought .. how about you fighting whatever you consider to be the good fight, and I'll do the same without your advice on how I do that.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Interesting? Naaa...not so much...but the comedy of it has made my ribs hurt from laughing to hard. :)

But I"m at a disillusioned stage right now. Both parties are making dramatic shifts in their coalitions and I'm not sure which one, if either, best represents my interests and values.
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The disillusionment, pain, and discomfort are a necessary function of evolution my brother.

This too will pass.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Interesting? Naaa...not so much...but the comedy of it has made my ribs hurt from laughing to hard. :)

But I"m at a disillusioned stage right now. Both parties are making dramatic shifts in their coalitions and I'm not sure which one, if either, best represents my interests and values.
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Start with the biggies.....

Do you believe a country is really a country without borders ?

Do you believe justice should be a two tier system, one law us and another for the elite ?

Do you believe we, as a country, should look for common ground with ALL nations, even those we don't always agree with ?

Do you believe in gov. officials selling their influence to the highest bidders to get personally rich ?

etc.....
 
NOVA said:
Start with the biggies.....

Do you believe a country is really a country without borders ?

Do you believe justice should be a two tier system, one law us and another for the elite ?

Do you believe we, as a country, should look for common ground with ALL nations, even those we don't always agree with ?

Do you believe in gov. officials selling their influence to the highest bidders to get personally rich ?

etc.....
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My question is, what makes you believe that Trump will do anything about the exceptionalism that he's enjoyed his entire life? Because he said so?

He lives by one rule for me, a different rule for everybody else.

Can you point out what steps he's taken in his life to address what you think he will do?

He has financial ties to Russia .. that doesn't count.
 
blackascoal said:
AND?

He lost 71% of the Hispanic vote.

Neither Hispanics, Blacks, Jews, Asians, nor Muslims, elected Donald Trump, right-wing white people did.

No problem .. but right-wing whites own him alone .. and they will be held accountable for all that he does politically.

If you think he's going to be a political genius .. you should have no problem with that.
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Cry harder, BAC; but keep your topknot dry. :D
 
Rune said:
Go fuck yourself
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The typical liberal response....there is no retort of self defense..why? Because there is no refutation of the truth possible, thus the quintessential liberal retort, a personal ad hominem insult. That's when you know you are getting to them, they squeal like the fascist pigs they are. :) The truth always winds them up. Priceless.
 
The US government has formally accused Russia of hacking the Democratic party’s computer networks and said that Moscow was attempting to “interfere” with the US presidential election.
Hillary Clinton and US officials have blamed Russian hackers for stealing more than 19,000 emails from Democratic party officials, but Friday’s announcement marked the first time that the Obama administration has pointed the finger at Moscow.
“We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities,” said the office of the director of national intelligence and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in a joint statement.
The accusation marked a new escalation of tensions with Russia and came shortly after the US secretary of state, John Kerry, called for Russia to be investigated for war crimes in Syria.




https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ia-dnc-hack-interfering-presidential-election
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Clinton fatigue?

I mean fucks sakes there is no arguing that Trump has exploited racial and cultural resentments and yes, that is bigoted. That's an objective fact so to his supporters I say, quit cry babying on the racist issue. You wanted, you got it. Own it.

I intend to be open minded as possible about Trump. Give him the leeway to govern and wish him success because that is in my own selfish self interest. Having said that if he tries to institutionalize either racist or nationalist ideology into our civil institutions I will do my best to oppose him.
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Nope it could never be possible that the people rejected the failure of liberal policies....it must be fascism or bigotry. It could never have been the 10 trillion dollar accumulated debt up to almost 20 trillion from 10 trillion over the past 8 years.

It could never be the documented drop of the US credit rating not once but twice from its stellar AAA rating.

It could never be due to the great losses in the US Labor force, down to its lowest level since the 70s....over the past 8 years.

It could never be the production of MORE POVERTY over the past 8 years...up from 39% to over 45%.

It could never be UNEMPLOYMENT up above 25% for the majority of minorites over the past 8 years.

It could never be the economic war on energy like Coal, natural gas and oil by the overreaching democrat EPA.

It could never be the result of our prison system being populated at a 48% level due to drug related crimes...half of that being Pot sales and use.

It not could be that there was a promise of an immigration rainbow....but at the end of that rainbow the Obama Administration has deported some 2 million immigrants back across the border, more than any other president in history. So much for the Tex Mex vote.

It could not be hundreds of Executive orders that are clearly unconstitutional acts of changing law void of any kind of representation from the PEOPLE....making Congress useless.

It could never be the the average income of all US citizens has been static since the supposed last recession...there has been no increase in household income whatsoever over the past 8 years...but a great deal more taxes to pay on things like sugar, tobacco, etc. Liberal Sin TAXES.

It could never be the Boondoggle called Obama Care where those that are working in the attempt to pay for insurance for those who already qualify for Welfare Medicare and SS Medicare.....and the TAX continues to raise on the middle class working stiffs in an exponential fashion every fiscal year since the law was passed by bribes and favorites....with never a Major percentage greater than 50 + 1.

Nope...it could never be any of these failed liberal policies that the people voted against.....it had to be due to RACISM and BIGOTRY. Laugh My Ass Off
 
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Wolverine said:
War? you don't want war, have you seen the electoral map! Liberal policies have been repudiated in whole, look at the last three elections, you won a Presidency based on race that's it, and his polices were just thrown under foot when given the opportunity!
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If that were true then how comes Dems have won the popular vote 6 out of the last 7 Presidential elections? They must be doing something right.
 
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