65% conservatives 'proud to be American,' just 37% liberals agree

Imperator said:
because everyone has the same values as you and wants the same things, right? When did obama double my standard deduction to 12k? when did trump force me to pay for healthcare I don't want? When did obama appoint an SJC I wanted? obama can suck it.
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you are just going to have to get used to the fact that a colored was president
 
iolo said:
Any clown who can be 'proud' of choosing a senile buffoon as President gives huge reason for all his compatriots to be deeply ashamed, while all the enemies of his country laugh their heads off, let's face it!
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Anyone that was proud of having picked another unqualified black guy in a government job between 2009 - 2017 should be ashamed of thinking skin color was a qualification. All we ended up with was yet another black family in government housing.
 
katzgar said:
you are just going to have to get used to the fact that a colored was president
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You're going to have to get used that having Obama as President was nothing more than just another unqualified black in a government job where those picking thought skin color was a qualification.
 
Cypress said:
I am not a big fan of time traveling back years, even decades, to examine what people once supported.

I once voted for and supported Ronald Reagan.

I am going to judge Annata and his Obese Orange Hero, for the words that come out of their mouths today, for the values they project today.
Which is nationalism, NeoCon-ism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, and the garden variety menu of rightwing reactionary horseshit.
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I don't disagree. People might change their outlook on a given issue as they age. Typically, we don't go from being able to intelligently research/discuss the issues, to being a paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist, unless there's some underlying medical condition. My buddy used to be sharp as a tack. Now I won't even read his crap.
 
TTQ64 said:
And he didn't speak out against bush then or now. He went along with the rest of America. He fooled a lot of people on these boards.

Just because they say he didn't support bush's illegal war doesn't mean what he says about President Obama being worse is true.

It's still a lie.
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You were on the Maher board with us?
 
Imperator said:
liberalism hates western values, it is incompatible with the countries founding ideals.
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Foolish comment. 'Western values' are inclusive....not prone to closed borders, and hatred of 'others'.

Of course, Conservatives embrace the 'values' our nation was founded on...slavery, misogyny, and rule by white wealthy men. Fortunately, those are no longer 'Western' values.
 
Althea said:
Foolish comment. 'Western values' are inclusive....not prone to closed borders, and hatred of 'others'.

Of course, Conservatives embrace the 'values' our nation was founded on...slavery, misogyny, and rule by white wealthy men. Fortunately, those are no longer 'Western' values.
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democracy, free speech, judeo christian values, the enlightenment, all values which liberals abhor.

the proof is in the pudding, no matter what president we are under, conservatives love our country, it's not political for us. It's not about us getting our way. Liberals no matter what hate and despise our country. misanthropic soyboy dipshit cultural marxists.
 
Althea said:
You were on the Maher board with us?
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Nope, but just like in this thread today, bush and his illegal war came up a lot on the DCJ boards.

He was a fraud then just like he is now.

He had a lot of people fooled, just like the racist right does today.
 
Imperator said:
democracy,
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Voter suppression

free speech
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Only for Nazis and other 'fine people'

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judeo christian values,
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In words only, not actions

the proof is in the pudding, no matter what president we are under, conservatives love our country, it's not political for us. It's not about us getting our way. Liberals no matter what hate and despise our country. misanthropic soyboy dipshit cultural marxists.
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Looks like you've been eating shit...not pudding
 
Althea said:
Foolish comment. 'Western values' are inclusive....not prone to closed borders, and hatred of 'others'.

Of course, Conservatives embrace the 'values' our nation was founded on...slavery, misogyny, and rule by white wealthy men. Fortunately, those are no longer 'Western' values.
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Now this, we agree on.
 
TTQ64 said:
Nope, but just like in this thread today, bush and his illegal war came up a lot on the DCJ boards.

He was a fraud then just like he is now.
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He was big on Obama bashing, but never supported Iraq. He blamed Obama for being worse, because Arab Spring proved to be a gross failure. Of course, that corresponds with the start of his delusions. He concocted conspiracies re. Libya, and never made it back to reality.
 
Althea said:
He was big on Obama bashing, but never supported Iraq. He blamed Obama for being worse, because Arab Spring proved to be a gross failure. Of course, that corresponds with the start of his delusions. He concocted conspiracies re. Libya, and never made it back to reality.
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Gross failure huh? Worse than the Iraq war we are currently in? To suggest President Obama created anything remotely close to any war any other President started before him, is very disingenuous to begin with.

It doesn't even warrant a discussion, it's a total lie and propaganda.

He's been a right wing racist all his life.

We can certainly agree to disagree because I see right through him.

He still a liar. President Obama is not worse than bush nor dump.
 
TTQ64 said:
Gross failure huh? Worse than the Iraq war we are currently in? To suggest President Obama created anything remotely close to any war any other President started before him, is very disingenuous to begin with.

It doesn't even warrant a discussion, it's a total lie and propaganda.

He's been a right wing racist all his life.

We can certainly agree to disagree because I see right through him.

He still a liar. President Obama is not worse than bush nor dump.
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You won't get any argument from me. Again...he's delusional. His hatred of Hillary, combined with 'other' personal issues, pushed him off the edge. As such, he says idiotic things like 'Obama was worse than Bush'.

As for the trump thing...I don't try to understand that logic. I had to put him on ignore.
 
Althea said:
You won't get any argument from me. Again...he's delusional. His hatred of Hillary, combined with 'other' personal issues, pushed him off the edge. As such, he says idiotic things like 'Obama was worse than Bush'.

As for the trump thing...I don't try to understand that logic. I had to put him on ignore.
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LOL He's like a train wreak, I can't look away sometimes. Besides that, I see where he's coming from so he won't ever catch me slipping. I can't afford to ignore him.
 
TTQ64 said:
LOL He's like a train wreak, I can't look away sometimes. Besides that, I see where he's coming from so he won't ever catch me slipping. I can't afford to ignore him.
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Well...as long as you keep quoting him, I'll be forced to face the fact that he's never coming back. He and I had some high quality debates over numerous issues back in the day.
 
Althea said:
You won't get any argument from me. Again...he's delusional. His hatred of Hillary, combined with 'other' personal issues, pushed him off the edge. As such, he says idiotic things like 'Obama was worse than Bush'.

As for the trump thing...I don't try to understand that logic. I had to put him on ignore.
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you fucking coward. You put me on ignore but quote me constantly. That's despicable and dishonest.
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Obama's foreign policy was worse in Africa. His drone policy was as bad or worse in Pakistan.
His meddling in Syria was counterproductive to bad, nothing good about it at all.

You're too stupid to understand this, all you understand is Putin "conquered Ukraine" or whatever sloppy language you used on FB

You think Paul Manafort is a Russia Operative . He finally registered as a foreign agent..Learn the basics..
 
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