65% conservatives 'proud to be American,' just 37% liberals agree
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He's been this all along. Perhaps you just didn't see it which is understandable. He had a lot of people fooled.
That is a copy of her own State Dept memo. Did she lie to herself?
My fav is South China Morning Post..Asia gets little coverage over here
Life is short. If she did wrong she was doubtless dismissed or brought to trial. The reports have somehow been suppressed!
Althea
Althea told me...
Notice what he did here. If you click the wikileaks link, it clearly shows that Clinton was tirelessly working with most of the world in order to facilitate a well planned, and well coordinated effort between numerous allies and even enemies.
He redacts anything that doesn't support his delusions, while accenting snippets that make it look like Clinton was concocting some underhanded plot to destroy the entire nation of Libya.
Althea
Althea told me...
Again...I remember him from 15 years ago. Once he began to go off the rails, I had to stop addressing his posts. When DCJ went down, I was already here. When he dragged his dog mess here, I had to put him on ignore.
But...I can see how you would hold that opinion of him. Most who 'met' him once he started sharing his Libya delusions, feel the same as you.
evince
Truthmatters
well did your assholes investigate or charge her with something?
NO
its bull shit asshole
taking texts out of context is not going to save your evil assed party
your team in being investigated
the people doing it are republicans
yet you want to pretend they are after your party for what?
nothing "underhanded" you moron why do you make shit up? Your partisan mind is shot !
You can't even understand that HILLARY OWNED our US Libya policy! (and corraling the world - except Russia) behind it) That's exactly what this says
to break it down for your feeble brain:
It's EXPOSURE of her role "tirelessly working" to ( per her state dept)
gawd damn you are stupid, dishonest, unable to put things in context as well...
Russian 'operatives" have eaten your mind
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you don't bring people to trall because they run a bad policy..
You are mixing up her supreme role in Libya with the FBI investigation
so are we all CLEAR.. Hillary owned US policy in Libya??
As I've described it before:
( my words)- "Hillary was chief US advocate and international organizer for the US/NATO policy of humanitarian war
( i.e responsibility to protect- a.k.a. R2P) which collapsed Libya into a terrorist state"
nothing 'delusional' here.. John is just throwing his Hillary Hissey Fit.
As I've described it before:
( my words)- "Hillary was chief US advocate and international organizer for the US/NATO policy of humanitarian war
( i.e responsibility to protect- a.k.a. R2P) which collapsed Libya into a terrorist state"
nothing 'delusional' here.. John is just throwing his Hillary Hissey Fit.
Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html
Clinton’s role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.
In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton’s intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan’s peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats
When the unrest of the Arab Spring broke out in early 2011, the CIA and the anti-Iran front of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey saw an opportunity to topple Assad quickly and thereby to gain a geopolitical victory. Clinton became the leading proponent of the CIA-led effort at Syrian regime change.
In early 2011, Turkey and Saudi Arabia leveraged local protests against Assad to try to foment conditions for his ouster. By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime. On August 18, 2011, the US Government made public its position: “Assad must go.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html
Clinton’s role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.
In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton’s intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan’s peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats
When the unrest of the Arab Spring broke out in early 2011, the CIA and the anti-Iran front of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey saw an opportunity to topple Assad quickly and thereby to gain a geopolitical victory. Clinton became the leading proponent of the CIA-led effort at Syrian regime change.
In early 2011, Turkey and Saudi Arabia leveraged local protests against Assad to try to foment conditions for his ouster. By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime. On August 18, 2011, the US Government made public its position: “Assad must go.”
'Friends of Syria" my ass..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Syria_Group
If the regime fails to accept the terms of the political initiative outlined by the Arab League and end violence against citizens, the Friends of Syria should not constrain individual countries from aiding the Syrian opposition by means of military advisers, training and provision of arms to defend themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Syria_Group
If the regime fails to accept the terms of the political initiative outlined by the Arab League and end violence against citizens, the Friends of Syria should not constrain individual countries from aiding the Syrian opposition by means of military advisers, training and provision of arms to defend themselves.
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday she would push for a no-fly zone and safe regions in Syria to address the humanitarian crisis that has spilled out in the Middle East.
“I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air,” Clinton said in an interview with WHDH-TV in Boston.
Clinton’s stance puts her at odds with the Obama administration. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Tuesday that the White House wasn’t considering a no-fly zone.
“It raises a whole set of logistical questions about how exactly what would be enforced, what sort of resources would be used to actually protect that area,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One.
https://apnews.com/5744395daa394af2b7c67cffa84b6f9b
you can't have "humanitarian corridors" without boots on the ground
“I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air,” Clinton said in an interview with WHDH-TV in Boston.
Clinton’s stance puts her at odds with the Obama administration. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Tuesday that the White House wasn’t considering a no-fly zone.
“It raises a whole set of logistical questions about how exactly what would be enforced, what sort of resources would be used to actually protect that area,” he told reporters aboard Air Force One.
https://apnews.com/5744395daa394af2b7c67cffa84b6f9b
you can't have "humanitarian corridors" without boots on the ground
It is the U.S. president, not the secretary of State that bears ultimate responsibility for that.
And Secretary Clinton was not an absolute authoritarian.
The reports I've read of it indicate the State department offered Ambassador Stevens improved security. And Stevens accepted some, and rejected others.
In any case, it's all an exercise in the naïve;
which Obama / Clinton basher can act the most macho about it.
Silly.
Ambassador Stevens deliberately kept his consulate a soft target. He said he thought it would present less of an impression of "fortress America" in foreign lands.
The attackers skillfully exploited this. And the Hillary bashers opportunistically pretend it's a Clinton failing.
Surely it's hardly her most shining hour. But the pile-on approach of what is obviously Republican partisan quibbling just makes the quibblers look petty.
The fact is, Hillary was a driven wonk, a hard worker. She might even have been nearly as good a president as her husband.
not talking about Bengazi -we're talking the 2011 Libyan war.
If you want more proof Clinton was instrumental in making Qadaffi a military target -try the NYTime
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=0
Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’ and a Dictator’s Fall
The president was wary. The secretary of state was persuasive. But the ouster of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed state and a terrorist haven.
Go suck Chomsky's cock you commie bitch, US foreign policy since WW2 is a badge of honor.
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Go bow to Lizzy, will ya?
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It isn't quite clear when the survey was taken, but it must have been recent. Am I correct in assuming that the %ages would be reversed during the Obama years?
What bothers me is this, or any other examples like it
What bothers me is this, or any other examples like it
Sad and disturbing in a country that prides itself on freedom of speech. I guess some think it is acceptable to resort to violence and destruction of personal property. "agree with me or else".
It's a no-brainer. Fiorina, Bachmann and Palin didn't support the issues I support so I couldn't vote for them. Same with Carson or Keyes.
I'm not going to vote for a woman just because I want a woman president and the same goes for a candidate of another race.
Patriotism always increases when there's a war. I consider 2003 to be an outlier. If you take out the middle column the other two aren't so far apart.
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I wonder which is safer, wearing a cross in the Gaza Strip or a MAGA hat at Berkeley University.......