Trump Approved "Christianity"

[Jade Dragon]

I don't see the video, but the lie is exposed right in the text.

It's very real though countryboy. For some reason there is this type of Evangelist that that has gotten the idea of wealth actually not just meaning something to God, but being praise worthy, almost like a ticket to heaven. They are cons, and their is no such way in any God, of any religion quite frankly. That hedonist in Houston closed his business (because that's what it actually is) from hosting people displaced by the hurricane there.

Tell me who else someone like Trump would have for a spiritual advisor, when the bible actually says it's easier for a packed camel to make it though a towns needle, than a rich man is to make it into heaven? Rich doesn't mean having money by the way, it's more about the person than the money. Essentially those that hold Gods gifts as status, and hold it over others, rather than use it, will be like an overburdened camel, that won't make it through. To think this kind of phony makes it anywhere, when those heeding words are blatant, and to the point is staggering. There is a fool born every day

 

[countryboy]

The entire quote, in context, is right there...in the OP.

Color me shocked that you refuse to simply go back a few pages to read what's already been posted.

But it sure is a conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient way to dodge having to admit you were wrong.

Okay, here you go. Direct from your OP. Where does it say this, paraphrased, or otherwise? "Trump spiritual adviser warns followers of ‘consequences’ if they don’t send her up to a month’s salary"

All Firsts belong to God,” she says. “When you honor this principle it provides the foundation and structure for God’s blessings and promises in your life, it unlocks deep dimensions of spiritual truths that literally transform your life! When you apply this everything comes in divine alignment for His plan and promises for you.

“When you don’t honor it, whether through ignorance or direct disobedience there are consequences,” she writes.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I see you refuse to post the entire quote in context. Hey, LOOK! Your pants are on fire!!!!!

But it was "PARAPHASED" and therefore is to be viewed as the truth.

Kind of like "Since some liberals are cocksuckers, then all liberals are cocksuckers."; because if it rings true, then it must be true.

 

[zappasguitar]

Okay, here you go. Direct from your OP. Where does it say this, paraphrased, or otherwise? "Trump spiritual adviser warns followers of ‘consequences’ if they don’t send her up to a month’s salary"

From the OP:

Via The Christian Post, White has launched a “First Fruits” campaign on her website that asks her followers to ring in the new year by sending her a significant chunk of money this month.

“Each January, I put God first and honor Him with the first of our substance by sowing a first fruits offering of one month’s pay,” White writes. “That is a big sacrifice, but it is a seed for the harvest I am believing for in the coming year. And God always provides! Every year many others join us and sow a month’s pay, a week’s pay, others give a day’s pay, but everyone gives their best- The results are miraculous!”

White explains that it’s important to donate money to her at the start of every new year because it helps you get off on the right foot with the Lord.


Now you go right ahead and make another excuse...

 

[zappasguitar]

But it was "PARAPHASED" and therefore is to be viewed as the truth.

Kind of like "Since some liberals are cocksuckers, then all liberals are cocksuckers."; because if it rings true, then it must be true.

Ah yes, the JPP poster too scared to address me personally, chimes in with his usual stupidity.

Of course, if he was to address me personally, then he'd have to defend his inability to quote me accurately, and anyone who's been on JPP long enough knows USF just loves making up bullshit about Liberals.

 

[countryboy]

It's very real though countryboy. For some reason there is this type of Evangelist that that has gotten the idea of wealth actually not just meaning something to God, but being praise worthy, almost like a ticket to heaven. They are cons, and their is no such way in any God, of any religion quite frankly. That hedonist in Houston closed his business (because that's what it actually is) from hosting people displaced by the hurricane there.

Tell me who else someone like Trump would have for a spiritual advisor, when the bible actually says it's easier for a packed camel to make it though a towns needle, than a rich man is to make it into heaven? Rich doesn't mean having money by the way, it's more about the person than the money. Essentially those that hold Gods gifts as status, and hold it over others, rather than use it, will be like an overburdened camel, that won't make it through. To think this kind of phony makes it anywhere, when those heeding words are blatant, and to the point is staggering. There is a fool born every day

I understand all that, and Word of Faith teachers like White and Osteen are leading people astray every day. It's absolutely egregious. But that's still no excuse to lie, and attempt to exploit her as an excuse to bash Christians in general.

Trump is pretty much a new Christian, if he's being genuine, and he simply doesn't know any better. Do you know how many seemingly intelligent people fall for these charlatans? Literally millions. I'm willing to cut him some slack, and pray that he finds the right path eventually. Unlike some who allow their blind, seething hatred to guide their every thought.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Your quibbling was slightly amusing at first, now it's just tiresome.

"The concept of biblical first fruits is real, but as I read your article I can't help but feel as though you're being manipulative. Laying the foundation for first fruits and then launching into a 'financial seed' campaign seems to be a misuse/abuse of the biblical intention," Christian mom Heather Norton told White on Twitter Tuesday morning.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/p...hs-pay-212716/

That's exactly what 'Pastor' White was doing.

so you are denying it.......pitiful.....

Trump spiritual adviser warns followers of ‘consequences’ if they don’t send her up to a month’s salary

here is what you are claiming is true.....and you have the nerve to criticize anyone about anything......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Except it's right there in the OP.

sure if you count what some dumb fuck named Zappass said instead of what she said......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I am such a dick and never tell the truth

I know, right?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm a lying cunt and I'm going to pretend that she said
"it’s important to donate money to her at the start of every new year" because it helps you get off on the right foot with the Lord.

even though you know it isn't true.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Ah yes, the JPP poster too scared to address me personally, chimes in with his usual stupidity.

Of course, if he was to address me personally, then he'd have to defend his inability to quote me accurately, and anyone who's been on JPP long enough knows USF just loves making up bullshit about Liberals.

I address you personally every time I post "lying lib'rul cunt"......didn't you realize that?.....

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

I understand all that, and Word of Faith teachers like White and Osteen are leading people astray every day. It's absolutely egregious. But that's still no excuse to lie, and attempt to exploit her as an excuse to bash Christians in general.

You don't think that White is using her position primarily to make money as the OP suggests? If she is, that should concern all Christians. But if not, what is her purpose?

 

[Ralph]

ENGLAND didn't have 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or even 1 violent revolutions in over 350 years, unless you count the rebellion of the American colonials which succeeded with the help of ROYALIST FRANCE. Lol!

Really? Its just a conspiracy that Ireland rebelled against British rule as late as the 1970s. And nations around the world rebelled against England's imperial greatness (the sun never sits on British Empire).....There was no BENGAL uprising in India...No American Revolution nor wars as the result in 1776 and 1812? There was no Sottish rebellion...nope never happened. No Anglo/Dutch war......no 7 years war.....No war of the second Coalition....No Peninsular War....no Cheseoeake Affair.....no little belt affair.....War of the 7th Coalition.....first Anglo/Afghan War/rebellion.....no 2nd Opium War against China....No 1st Boer War against the Dutch...no 2nd Boer War....No rebellion in Somali ..i.e., called the "Mad Mullah uprising".....

No Boxer Rebellion.....And of course there was no 1st or second world war seeking social justice. Nor were there no British Troops involved in the Russian Revolution. No Anglo/Irish rebellion what soever.....no such animal as the IRA...there was no Rebellion in Iraq against the British first in 1932 and again in WW2...nope The Brits are as peaceful

AS CHURCH MICE.

We can tell you are well educated in history actual....and way to intelligent for me to debate. What were you exiled from.....grade school?

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Really? Its just a conspiracy that Ireland rebelled against British rule as late as the 1970s. And nations around the world rebelled against England's imperial greatness (the sun never sits on British Empire).....There was no BENGAL uprising in India...No American Revolution nor wars as the result in 1776 and 1812? There was no Sottish rebellion...nope never happened. No Anglo/Dutch war......no 7 years war.....No war of the second Coalition....No Peninsular War....no Cheseoeake Affair.....no little belt affair.....War of the 7th Coalition.....first Anglo/Afghan War/rebellion.....no 2nd Opium War against China....No 1st Boer War against the Dutch...no 2nd Boer War....No rebellion in Somali ..i.e., called the "Mad Mullah uprising".....

No Boxer Rebellion.....And of course there was no 1st or second world war seeking social justice. Nor were there no British Troops involved in the Russian Revolution. No Anglo/Irish rebellion what soever.....no such animal as the IRA...there was no Rebellion in Iraq against the British first in 1932 and again in WW2...nope The Brits are as peaceful

AS CHURCH MICE.

We can tell you are well educated in history actual....and way to intelligent for me to debate. What were you exiled from.....grade school?

Hmm ... which one of those was a violent revolution in England?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You don't think that White is using her position primarily to make money as the OP suggests? If she is, that should concern all Christians. But if not, what is her purpose?

same purpose as every other teleevanglist......all 24 of them......to get people to send her money.....doesn't change the fact that the OP is an outright lie since no where does she tell people to send her a month's income or face consequences......doesn't that actually make you as bad as any teleevangelist?.......

 

[zappasguitar]

I know, right?.....

And now the final bit of proof that I was right all along.

PMP must resort to changing what I wrote.

He can't refute my claims despite NUMEROUS attempts, so he has to resort to childish stunts like changing what I posted!

 

[PostmodernProphet]

And now the final bit of proof that I was right all along.

PMP must resort to changing what I wrote.

He can't refute my claims despite NUMEROUS attempts, so he has to resort to childish stunts like changing what I posted!

well I tried pasting what you wrote but you still denied it........what did I have to lose......

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Hmm ... which one of those was a violent revolution in England?

You didn't say "IN ENGLAND" and you referenced the American Revolution, which also wasn't in England

ENGLAND didn't have 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or even 1 violent revolutions in over 350 years, unless you count the rebellion of the American colonials which succeeded with the help of ROYALIST FRANCE. Lol!

Remember the quotation of - The sun never sets on the British Empire

Has anyone ever suggested that you suck at this and you paid attention?

<drops the mike and walks away>

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

You didn't say "IN ENGLAND" and you referenced the American Revolution, which also wasn't in England.

*sigh* I said "ENGLAND didn't have 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or even 1 violent revolutions in over 350 years."
Maybe you can remind me of one that I forgot? Go ahead ...

And ffs don't tell me that England had a violent revolution in the Indian Mutiny, or some such crap.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

same purpose as every other teleevanglist......all 24 of them......to get people to send her money.....doesn't change the fact that the OP is an outright lie since no where does she tell people to send her a month's income or face consequences......doesn't that actually make you as bad as any teleevangelist?.......

No, it makes you a pettifogging quibbler. I didn't write the OP but it's essentially correct. Trump's spiritual adviser wants her followers to think that if they don't send her as much money as they can spare, they will lose God's favor.

I wonder how much Trump sent?