JPP Trump State of the Union livestream thread - starts 9 PM EST

All this fuss over a pointless speech. Waste of airtime really, and just another reason I stream what I watch.
 
It's not about credit. It's about the accomplishment. It's good news. That's worth the applause.

"In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years."

IMO this is one of those things he just should not have mentioned as though it were his personal success.
 
Do you think Kimmy will give up his nukes, peacefully ... soon?
he doesn't have ICBM re-entry survivability, or weaponization miniaturization just yet, but he's got the ballistic capability, and course plotting..

NK cannot be allowed to be a nuclear threat, but how it plays out is unknowable..
that's why Trump is saying we would use military force as a last- but real resort.
 
Yankee Doodle. He mentioned Yorktown too. and the Freedom statue..
One thing he harps on is the Swamp doesn't own the government -power to the people

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I am not a fan of the idolatry in the UDW. trump's glorification of that city and the symbolism of tammuz/queen of heaven [whore]. is it not. prove me wrong concerning the symbolism of the UDW. sorry folks. I wish I had a different report. it is what is. I dissent absolutely and completely to the intention of creating a new Babylon world order. it is suicide. that image tells the whole story of repeat and fail. i'm sorry...
 
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HAHAHA! It’s an old public speaking trick. Vaseline on the teeth and lips help dry mouth from nerves. Looks like he got carried away.

As to style, I will say I think he did OK under pressure

As to content, his pessimism was a terrible response. He should have acknowledged some positives and then pivoted to discuss democratic issues he believes are not being addressed by the GOP. Talk about what Democrats want to do.
 
"In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years."

IMO this is one of those things he just should not have mentioned as though it were his personal success.

That makes no sense to me. If the SOTU is supposed to be a unifying event and make us feel good about ourselves as a country why would you leave that out?
 
That makes no sense to me. If the SOTU is supposed to be a unifying event and make us feel good about ourselves as a country why would you leave that out?

I already said it's my opinion. The biggest drop started and continued for eight years under Obama, and trump made it seem he had a part in it when he just happened to be in the WH while the momentum continued.
 
he doesn't have ICBM re-entry survivability, or weaponization miniaturization just yet, but he's got the ballistic capability, and course plotting..

NK cannot be allowed to be a nuclear threat, but how it plays out is unknowable..
that's why Trump is saying we would use military force as a last- but real resort.

I don't see Kimmy giving up his nukes and allowing in international inspectors, ever.
 
In my business I come in contact with many Koreans. Most have made there way here from South Korea. Some via a long road from N. Korea. One, a former soldier. He had the ability to get his wife children grandmother uncle and a few siblings out. The family members he could not get out were tortured, and murdered. Mr. Ho's story resonates with stories I've been told. I don't want war-

I do not want war either. I have been here since 1967. I have witnessed the whole damned thing. I have never engaged in war buti do know that if you are going to do a damned job; then do the whole job. politics [UN] caused the open ended "conflicts" with "police actions"; these are created crises. are they not ? this is a deep and solemn subject. I will shut up now.
 
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