JPP Trump State of the Union livestream thread - starts 9 PM EST

blackascoal said:
Wait .. you're citing a poll, but people have lost faith in polls?

I didn't refute your poll, I simply pointed out a far more relevant poll .. that you don't like. Irrespective of what polls you do or don't like, the midterms are going to be brutal for your side .. and you've got from now to November to digest that .. and the consequences of the unraveling of Trump and his policies.

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Yep, I used a poll.

The speech caused the Dem congress critters to expose their lack of support for, and hatred for, Americans. They lost midterm votes by showing their hatred, immaturity, pettiness and arrogance.
 
christiefan915 said:
And I've noticed you're the criterion of condescension... many, many times.
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If you ever stop being Christiecrit, just let me know. (Perhaps the rest of the Ammy village will get banned, and then you won't have to see or fret about that condescension anymore...as I pointed out, a hefty number got the boot...)
 
Bigdog said:
Yep, I used a poll.

The speech caused the Dem congress critters to expose their lack of support for, and hatred for, Americans. They lost midterm votes by showing their hatred, immaturity, pettiness and arrogance.
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Fantasize much?

The media is filled with fact-checkers today .. any idea how many lies in that speech that Americans are exposed to right now? No?

Now comes the analysis and expectations for the follow-through.

Hey .. since you like polls now, I've got another one for you ..

CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/state-of-the-union-reaction-poll/index.html
 
TOP said:
If you ever stop being Christiecrit, just let me know. (Perhaps the rest of the Ammy village will get banned, and then you won't have to see or fret about that condescension anymore...as I pointed out, a hefty number got the boot...)
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If you ever stop lecturing people as if this forum were an elementary school classroom, let me know.
 
blackascoal said:
Fantasize much?

The media is filled with fact-checkers today .. any idea how many lies in that speech that Americans are exposed to right now? No?

Now comes the analysis and expectations for the follow-through.

Hey .. since you like polls now, I've got another one for you ..

CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/state-of-the-union-reaction-poll/index.html
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The only polls that count ... are election polls :0)

"You can keep your doctor" ... people tolerate "lying" from politicians.
 
Bigdog said:
The only polls that count ... are election polls :0)

"You can keep your doctor" ... people tolerate "lying" from politicians.
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Just an FYI: the fact that "keep your doctor" is the ONLY one you can come up with over 8 years actually makes Trump, who has hundreds since getting elected, look really bad.
 
Bigdog said:
The only polls that count ... are election polls :0)

"You can keep your doctor" ... people tolerate "lying" from politicians.
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I'm talking about the only poll that counts. What are you talking about?

Surely, surely you don't want to compare lies. ;0) get real.
 
Thing1 said:
Also, "keep your doctor" is more of a broken promise. Bad, yes - but not like a premeditated lie, which we see from Trump routinely.
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Not a premeditated lie when people on his team were telling him it wasn't true yet he continued to use it on the campaign trail?
 
blackascoal said:
I'm talking about the only poll that counts. What are you talking about?

Surely, surely you don't want to compare lies. ;0) get real.
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Well, we both agree that the midterms will tell the truth.

We can compare the magnitude of lies. When you lie to the American people in order to pass legislation that gives politicians control over 1/6 of the economy ... that is Yuuge.
 
Bigdog said:
Well, we both agree that the midterms will tell the truth.

We can compare the magnitude of lies. When you lie to the American people in order to pass legislation that gives politicians control over 1/6 of the economy ... that is Yuuge.
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Agreed .. the midterms tells all.

Could you be talking about legislation that republicans promised to end the moment they took control .. then couldn't because the American people supported that legislation?
 
Thing1 said:
Trump has been under investigation from the start. Most voters probably don't even know who Schiff is.

The Dems will pick up seats in the House - most likely significant gains. I think it's a mid to longshot that they take control of the House, but it's definitely a possibility.

Independents may have liked the speech yesterday, but most don't like one-party control for too long.
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Yes, the investigation that is looking to be the result of nefarious behavior by a politicized justice department.

No way as to your use of the word "significant."

Independent's don't like corruption and big government. They like freedoms that is better represented by and large by conservatives.
 
blackascoal said:
Agreed .. the midterms tells all.

Could you be talking about legislation that republicans promised to end the moment they took control .. then couldn't because the American people supported that legislation?
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President Trump forced a handful of repub senators ... to expose their anti-ACA position, that they heralded for 7 years ... as fraudulent, fake, false and untruthful.

This is what draining the swamp looks like. It's not a partisan affair.
 
J Craft said:
Yes, the investigation that is looking to be the result of nefarious behavior by a politicized justice department.

No way as to your use of the word "significant."

Independent's don't like corruption and big government. They like freedoms that is better represented by and large by conservatives.
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Independents have walked away from Trump
 
Bigdog said:

President Trump forced a handful of repub senators ... to expose their anti-ACA position, that they heralded for 7 years ... as fraudulent, fake, false and untruthful.

This is what draining the swamp looks like. It's not a partisan affair.
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:rofl2: That's funny.

By the time the midterms roll around there may be 50 or 60 REPUBLICANS who have dropped out .. including many Committee Chairs.

Yes, the swamp drains.
 
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