Yet you are still wrong: he wasn't fired by the FBI
OMG! ... McCabe FIRED !!!!!!!!!!
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Yet you are still wrong: he wasn't fired by the FBI
then he threw it all away with lies and deceit .
He tarnishes the good name of the FBI and had to be removed
FBI operates under the jurisdiction of the US Department of Justice
Noise is immune to his own ironic comments. Irony impairment.
The office of personal responsibility reports to Sessions and is under the DOJ.. The problem is not that McCabe lied.. The problem is that he can corroborate Comey's testimony..
That has Trump wild and getting worse.. He's been tweeting attacks on them since early this morning.
facts directly contradict you statement .
OPR made a finding of "lack of candor" etc. and recommended firing.. There is no other way to spin this
Lack of candor is pretty fuzzy.. I posted the website earlier.
What do you think of the timing?
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-firing-andrew-mccabe
Office of Professional Responsibility | Department of Justice
https://www.justice.gov/opr
The Office of Professional Responsibility, reporting directly to the Attorney General, is responsible for investigating allegations of misconduct involving Department attorneys that relate to the exercise of their authority to investigate, litigate or provide legal advice, as well as allegations of misconduct by law enforcement ...
^ good article. The only thing the article questions is the timing -not the process.
It does say Horowitz's report should give us more "why" it happened, but does not dispute it was a perfectly valid termination
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The FBI takes telling the truth extremely seriously: “lack of candor” from employees is a fireable offense—and people are fired for it. Moreover, it doesn’t take an outright lie to be dismissed. In one case, the bureau fired an agent after he initially gave an ambiguous statement to investigators as to how many times he had picked up his daughter from daycare in an FBI vehicle. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled against the agent when he appealed, finding that “lack of candor is established by showing that the FBI agent did not ‘respond fully and truthfully’ to the questions he was asked.”
Consider also that although Sessions made the ultimate call to fire McCabe, the public record shows that the process resulting in the FBI deputy director’s dismissal involved career Justice Department and FBI officials—rather than political appointees selected by President Trump—at crucial points along the way.
To begin with, the charges against McCabe arose out of the broader Justice Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation into the FBI’s handling of the Clinton email investigation. While the inspector general is appointed by the president, the current head of that office, Michael Horowitz, was appointed by President Barack Obama and is himself a former career Justice Department lawyer. As Jack Goldsmith has written, the inspector general has a great deal of statutory independence, which Horowitz has not hesitated to use: Most notably, he produced a highly critical 2012 report into the Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” program. So a process that begins with Horowitz and his office carries a presumption of fairness and independence.
After investigating McCabe, Horowitz’s office provided a report on McCabe’s conduct to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), which investigates allegations of misconduct against bureau employees. This office is headed by career Justice Department official Candace Will, whom then-FBI Director Robert Mueller appointed to lead the OPR in 2004. According to Sessions, the Office of Professional Responsibility agreed with Horowitz’s assessment that McCabe “lacked candor” in speaking to internal investigators.
Finally, Sessions’s statement references “the recommendation of the Department’s senior career official” in advocating McCabe’s firing on the basis of the OIG and OPR determinations. (The official in question appears to be Associate Deputy Attorney General Scott Schools.)
So while Sessions made the decision to dismiss McCabe, career officials or otherwise independent actors were involved in conducting the investigation into the deputy director and recommending his dismissal on multiple levels.
It does say Horowitz's report should give us more "why" it happened, but does not dispute it was a perfectly valid termination
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The FBI takes telling the truth extremely seriously: “lack of candor” from employees is a fireable offense—and people are fired for it. Moreover, it doesn’t take an outright lie to be dismissed. In one case, the bureau fired an agent after he initially gave an ambiguous statement to investigators as to how many times he had picked up his daughter from daycare in an FBI vehicle. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled against the agent when he appealed, finding that “lack of candor is established by showing that the FBI agent did not ‘respond fully and truthfully’ to the questions he was asked.”
Consider also that although Sessions made the ultimate call to fire McCabe, the public record shows that the process resulting in the FBI deputy director’s dismissal involved career Justice Department and FBI officials—rather than political appointees selected by President Trump—at crucial points along the way.
To begin with, the charges against McCabe arose out of the broader Justice Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation into the FBI’s handling of the Clinton email investigation. While the inspector general is appointed by the president, the current head of that office, Michael Horowitz, was appointed by President Barack Obama and is himself a former career Justice Department lawyer. As Jack Goldsmith has written, the inspector general has a great deal of statutory independence, which Horowitz has not hesitated to use: Most notably, he produced a highly critical 2012 report into the Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” program. So a process that begins with Horowitz and his office carries a presumption of fairness and independence.
After investigating McCabe, Horowitz’s office provided a report on McCabe’s conduct to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), which investigates allegations of misconduct against bureau employees. This office is headed by career Justice Department official Candace Will, whom then-FBI Director Robert Mueller appointed to lead the OPR in 2004. According to Sessions, the Office of Professional Responsibility agreed with Horowitz’s assessment that McCabe “lacked candor” in speaking to internal investigators.
Finally, Sessions’s statement references “the recommendation of the Department’s senior career official” in advocating McCabe’s firing on the basis of the OIG and OPR determinations. (The official in question appears to be Associate Deputy Attorney General Scott Schools.)
So while Sessions made the decision to dismiss McCabe, career officials or otherwise independent actors were involved in conducting the investigation into the deputy director and recommending his dismissal on multiple levels.
Lack of candor about WHAT?
countryboy
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Semantic contrarian nonsense. Or, maybe you really are that ignorant.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...uggests-fbi-corruption-at-highest-levels.html
countryboy
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He was fired at the request of the FBI. Woah, big difference.
denying he leaked the WSJournal article for 1..we'll know more after the IG report is released
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British GCHQ had been informing the CIA of "suspicious interactions" between Trump associates and Russian agents since late 2015. Brennan did nothing about it until the following summer.
Hmm, how should we Spectator hacks spin that? Got it! "Brennan seized on the half-baked intelligence of British spy agencies (also full of officials who wanted to see Trump lose)." Hey, plenty of dupes will swallow it!
The irony of noise thanking this post is ....ironic.
We still got rid over Obama as well...it's called a 2-year term and you're out! YAAAAAAAAAY!
Pure Karma for McCabe then.
Good...right back at'm.
Hillary is a neolib you fucking dolt.
And I would be careful about threatening other members.
I don't think its a good thing that our president is so sick..
