"2020 Census Will Ask About Respondents' Citizenship Status"

It was NEVER intended to be about taxation. It was only about representation. So if you are not a citizen, why would we want to count you?

Exactly! All these states that have packed their cities and towns with extra illegal bodies don't want them counted as non-citizens because it will impact how many people they can send to Congress. California has lost a lot of citizens only to be replaced with a lot of illegal residents- it is very likely with a census that counted actual citizens, California would lose a congressional seat.
 
Exactly! All these states that have packed their cities and towns with extra illegal bodies don't want them counted as non-citizens because it will impact how many people they can send to Congress. California has lost a lot of citizens only to be replaced with a lot of illegal residents- it is very likely with a census that counted actual citizens, California would lose a congressional seat.
"A" congressional seat? It would actually be several seats.
 
It was NEVER intended to be about taxation. It was only about representation. So if you are not a citizen, why would we want to count you?

Because the 14 amendment says to count all PERSONS. Did not say citizens. There are lots in the process of becoming citizens too.
 
The question that asks my race makes me less likely I'll fill out the census form. It's not the gubmint's business what race I am.
of course. If i get the long form to fill out -fill it out.
If they don't completely fill it out, i seriously doubt if census workers are going to come around and bother the respondent.

Citizen question (argument) is a red herring towards compliance
 
Wrong, leave your partisan sites and read what they are framing

The actual census hasn't asked the question since the 1950's, addendums and census surveys have included it but both of them are samplings and not an actual nationwide count

Was the question been part of the census for a long time, technically yes, but not as part of the actual decade count conducted via the Constitution every ten years to determine representation

What exactly is your problem with the question being asked?
 
If I were here illegally and an official government form was asking about my status I'd either lie or just not fill it out. Seems like a way to make sure that we won't get an accurate count of people in the US.
 
They're already breaking the law by being here. What's keeping them from lying and saying they're citizens?

Fear, moron. The Census Bureau says that in 2010, the Hispanic population was undercounted by 1.5%.

The intent is a greater undercount.
 
Well to begin with, there is no need, what has arisen in the last ten years, actually in the last seven decades, that has created a need to return to antiquated practices?

Secondly, according to the Constitution, anyone who is considered a "free Persons," other than Native Americans who were at time singled out because they didn't pay tax, were suppose to be counted, so what does declaring citizenship have to do with obtaining an accurate count of people living in the United States?

back in the old days we didn't spend all our time importing 3rd world gutter trash in the tens of millions
 
Ask legal Japanese Americans during WWII why somebody might not want to have their race or status on a government census form.

Really? So the gobblement used census forms to round up Japanese Americans? There was no other way to tell who was Japanese and who was not?

Interesting. I didn't realize how easy it was for them to hide among us. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Because the 14 amendment says to count all PERSONS. Did not say citizens. There are lots in the process of becoming citizens too.
The 14th. amendment clairified who a US citizen is. Stop asserting otherwise, as it's ignorant to do so.

"All natural born citizens and those who have been naturalized."

Naturalized citizen. ... One who, being born an alien, has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws. 2. He has all the rights of a natural born citizen, except that of being eligible as president or vice-president of the United States.
 
Ask legal Japanese Americans during WWII why somebody might not want to have their race or status on a government census form.

Quite a bit different. As you say, they were already citizens, so the detainment of them was abusive as it was unconditional.

I think the form asking the question regarding citizen or non- citizen is valid. Especially in light of our lax enforcement of immigration and the abuse of our laws by illegals.
 
If I were here illegally and an official government form was asking about my status I'd either lie or just not fill it out. Seems like a way to make sure that we won't get an accurate count of people in the US.

It also creates an address in a database where either no one apparently lives (if they don't fill it out), or where a non citizen lives (if they are honest) or, if they lie- it will likely be easy to determine. Addresses can be cross referenced to voter registration.
 
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