You don't know for shit what you would do if you were an illegal because you don't live in that kind of fear.
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You don't know for shit what you would do if you were an illegal because you don't live in that kind of fear.
Right. And clearly only you have the ability to surmise what that kind of fear might feel like because you have super-special liberal feels.
Wrong again, illiterate. I never said anything of the sort of what fear might feel like. What I DID do is call you out on your bullshit of what you would do if you were an illegal. Since you don't know shit about what it's like to live as one, I place a "bull" in from of that shit you don't know to get to yout bullshit
What I DO know about their fear is based on any number of interviews with minorities, public officials and even cops that I've seen and read in the era of Trump and his ICE boys as well as the actual deportations that have split up families.
Airstrip One
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You are unenlightened if you lack the ability to reason or apply logic to situations.
You are delusional if you think you know what it's like to live as they do.
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If Damo can't appreciate the specific levels of fear that permeate the mind of an illegal, then, logically, neither can you.
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A reality which you are unqualified to speak to, given that you also do not live among them.
Yet you believe that you have some ability to watch these and surmise something that you believe that I cannot. Because you have super-special liberal "superpowers" of sympathy that nobody else could possibly have. I get it.
The reality is, I lived in the same apartment buildings as the very people you seem to be talking about. I have some ability to understand how they may react and how I may react had I been in the same circumstances. But hey, you just go on assuming stuff about me because that makes you feel like you have some sort of super special moral high ground. You go on with your "bad" self. This post of yours rings much like that inane "I'm a Navy Seal" meme, carry on friend. I'll just continue having conversations with the sane.
He said what he would do "IF" he were an illegal. Let's try this again, S-L-O-W-L-Y, for you.
He ISN'T an ILLEGAL and doesn't know SHIT about what it's like to live daily as one. For him to say what he would do comes from a complete lack of knowledge and is therefore suppositional horseshit.
I never said I can appreciate it, illiterate. I said my perspective is from reading and watching ACTUAL interviews with those that ARE in those situations. And watching and reading about ACTUAL events.
Sorry that you need to concoct your "woulds" rather than observing reality. That appears to be a real problem for many of you.
Airstrip One
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Your entire argument is based upon Damo not being an illegal. You are not yourself an illegal. Therefore, based upon your own ridiculous premise, you can neither praise nor denigrate Damo's assertion. Your so-called perspective is worthless, because it lacks the force of your own worthless premise.
2nd time, illiterate. I never said I had "some ability." Go find that statement, would you, illiterate? I never used the word "sympathy" either, illiterate. Why do you morons always need to concoct your own reality?
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I had to look up the "I'm a Navy Seal" thing. Had no fucking idea what that meant. No, aswipe, I'm no Navy Seal. What I am is an observer of reality and "what is" rather than your fecal "woulda/shoulda/coulda/if" concoctions. I can't call you on your horseshit to your face, so this will have to suffice.
Easy fix, though, pally boy. Don't make up bullshit and I promise I won't call you on it.
Is this guy for real? If his premise had any meat to it, Stephen King couldn't write books about scary things that don't exist because he never experienced that fear and therefore couldn't possibly imagine how he, or his characters, might react. Or science fiction writers couldn't possibly write about traveling over the speed of light, therefore movies and TV shows like Star Trek cannot exist because those writers have never traveled over the speed of light or met an alien. And since nobody has ever seen extra-terrestrials we cannot even imagine an extra-terrestrial...
Shoot... I can name any number of things I can sympathize with others about even though I have never experienced them directly.
My perspective is watching and listening to what the ACTUAL participants are experiencing, nimrod. From their own mouths. From ACTUAL footage and ACTUAL reports and ACTUAL events. How many times do I need to explain that? Not once have I used verbiage of what I "would" do or what I "would" think. Try to read what I say, illiterate, rather than twisting it in your own little mind.
Says the guy making up nonsense.
Your premise, since you are not illegal you cannot imagine if I am right or wrong. So follow your own advice and just step slowly away from the keyboard. While I could not care any less what you think about others ability to sympathize with people, it seems to be based on the starting point of a sociopath that has no ability to sympathize or empathize with another human being. Not everybody has the same inability to do those things that you seem to propound, in fact most people can in fact empathize with others.
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You sound a lot like that moron, Sailor, today, when he said he "would have" run around, unarmed, looking for the shooter at Parkland. Such delusional horeshit!
Now, I see you have twisted this shit up so much in your mind that you're equating your "if I were an illegal alien, this is what I would do" to science fiction books and extra-terrestrials. Are you fucking kidding me? Just fucking priceless!
You didn't say what you sympathize with, Nancy. You said "this is what I would do."
Give up, Jethro. You've gone off the deep end.
You clearly do not know what the meaning of empathy is. As I said, you go on with yourself. And I'll reiterate. If I were an illegal, I would either not fill it out or lie on the form. It is what I would do if I were in the same circumstances.
This idea that you can watch some interview of some guy on TV and have special powers of understanding while I cannot simply understand the people I grew up with in my neighborhood is absurd. Your whole premise is absurd.
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What fucking orifice are you pulling this "special powers" bullshit from, Nancy?
I understand when the person being interviewed says "we live in fear." I understand when the local cops say "we are getting less cooperation." I understand a news report that shows a father of a family who has been here for years being deported. Those are realities, pally, and require no concoctions or any special powers. Just paying attention.
What does require "special powers" is concocting make believe scenarios of what you "would do". Just like Sailor and his Rambo routine in a mass shooting.
Damn amusing!
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You either are a sociopath and think everybody else has the same deficiency or you are just an idiot who thinks he's more capable of understanding things people say or both.
The vast majority of humans have an ability to empathize, only those who are sociopaths are deficient in this area. Either way, your premise is idiotic.
I'll say it again. If I were in their shoes and felt that kind of fear, and from evidence of the past, I would either not fill out the form (not cooperate, as in less cooperation in the interviews you noticed) or lie on it (also less cooperation for the mentally and emotionally deficient)...
Let's pretend that only those who have seen those interviews might understand that they are afraid to cooperate with the government, and that we've all watched the interviews. It may help you to understand and participate in the conversation.
"If/would"
If pigs were invisible, pork prices would be much higher. See how easy that is? Now, refute it.
I have a great imagination and can easily do "if/would". If I were Superman, would I use my powers for the greater good of mankind? Nope. I'd be looking at women with my x-ray vision. Fuck mankind. Titties!
See, moron? "If/would" requires nothing. It requires no proof. It requires no citations to back up your claims. It requires no validation. Nothing but pure speculative bullshit. Easiest thing in the world.
The world is full of people living in their "if/would" fantasy world. You see it in this microcosm of a forum all the time. Here's the REALITY, Rufus, in the entire history of mankind, "if/would" has never happened. Not once. Only is and was. That includes you filling out a census as an illegal.
Airstrip One
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You cannot gain a perspective from footage, reports, or events, because, you don't really know the thoughts, feelings, and experiences of the people you purport to be studying and observing. If you don't like that, check your own dishonest premises at the door.