How Mary Jo Kopechne was a victim of the Kennedys TWICE

Cypress said:
For real. Does a wingnut really need to time travel back a half century in an attempt to make a salient point?

What is the average age of a time-traveling jpp.com Trumptard anyway? Like, seventy six or something?
Are people under the age of 55 even really aware of Cappaquidik, or whatever it's called?
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You're such an effing arsehole, beyond a shadow of doubt.

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Havana Moon said:
There are certainly a lot of unanswered questions.

There were also doubts about the way Kopechne died. Dr. Donald Mills of Edgartown, wrote on the death certificate: "death by drowning". However, Gene Frieh, the undertaker, told reporters that death "was due to suffocation rather than drowning". John Farrar, the diver who removed Kopechne from the car, claimed she was "too buoyant to be full of water". It is assumed that she died from drowning, although her parents filed a petition preventing an autopsy.

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKkopechne.htm

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Drowning victims are almost never "full of water" . The air way will close with only a few drops. It is a reflex that causes asphyxiation.

drown
droun/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: drowning
die through submersion in and inhalation of water.
"she drowned in the pond"
synonyms: suffocate in water, inhale water; go to a watery grave
"he nearly drowned"
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Poor Tom
 
Cypress said:
For real. Does a wingnut really need to time travel back a half century in an attempt to make a salient point?

What is the average age of a time-traveling jpp.com Trumptard anyway? Like, seventy six or something?
Are people under the age of 55 even really aware of Cappaquidik, or whatever it's called?
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Tom is REALLY old.
Poor Tom.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Setting the bar at "effective legislator"...is actually setting it rather high for American conservative legislators.

The "Doris" is the kind of thing that must make you a hero with the other kids at the playground, right?
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You don't get it. To say about a person that they "are not a murderer, but an effective legislator" is setting the bar pretty low as a complimentary description or expectations of someone's character. LOL
 
Leonthecat said:
Drowning victims are almost never "full of water" . The air way will close with only a few drops. It is a reflex that causes asphyxiation.



Poor Tom
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Not too sure where you played Dr. Google with that information however it is wrong. What you are referring to is "dry drowning." A small percentage of drowning victims experience that.
 
Stretch said:
You don't get it. To say about a person that they "are not a murderer, but an effective legislator" is setting the bar pretty low as a complimentary description or expectations of someone's character. LOL
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Oh, I get it.

You American conservatives back incompetents...so you have to pretend really competent legislators like Ted Kennedy are less effective than they were.

Hey...no problem. Some of us feel sorry for you guys. (Even if we do it with a wide smile on our face.)
 
Frank Apisa said:
Oh, I get it.

You American conservatives back incompetents...so you have to pretend really competent legislators like Ted Kennedy are less effective than they were.

Hey...no problem. Some of us feel sorry for you guys. (Even if we do it with a wide smile on our face.)
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You still don't get it........so keep on rambling on about nothing to do with it.
 
Sailor said:
Not too sure where you played Dr. Google with that information however it is wrong. What you are referring to is "dry drowning." A small percentage of drowning victims experience that.
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Drowning is defined as respiratory impairment from being in or under a liquid.[1] It is further classified by outcome into: death, ongoing health problems, and no ongoing health problems.[1] Drowning itself is quick and silent, although it may be preceded by distress which is more visible.[2]

Generally, in the early stages of drowning, very little water enters the lungs: a small amount of water entering the trachea causes a muscular spasm that seals the airway and prevents the passage of both air and water until unconsciousness occurs. This means a person drowning is unable to shout or call for help, or seek attention, as they cannot obtain enough air. The instinctive drowning response is the final set of autonomic reactions in the 20–60 seconds before sinking underwater, and to the untrained eye can look similar to calm safe behavior.[2][3] Lifeguards and other persons trained in rescue learn to recognize drowning people by watching for these movements.[2] If the process is not interrupted, loss of consciousness due to hypoxia is followed rapidly by cardiac arrest. At this stage, the process is still usually reversible by prompt and effective rescue and first aid. Survival rates depend strongly on the duration of immersion.


It is well understood that shallow water drowning almost never shows any water in the lungs whatsoever. The car she drowned in was not even completely submerged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drowning
Poor Sailor
 
Frank Apisa said:
The Trump family members are not saints...even if compared with the Borgias.

They are a pus pocket on the American body politic. The sooner they are all gone...the better our nation will be.
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Actually I think they represent the state of american society fairly well.
 
Leonthecat said:
Drowning is defined as respiratory impairment from being in or under a liquid.[1] It is further classified by outcome into: death, ongoing health problems, and no ongoing health problems.[1] Drowning itself is quick and silent, although it may be preceded by distress which is more visible.[2]

Generally, in the early stages of drowning, very little water enters the lungs: a small amount of water entering the trachea causes a muscular spasm that seals the airway and prevents the passage of both air and water until unconsciousness occurs. This means a person drowning is unable to shout or call for help, or seek attention, as they cannot obtain enough air. The instinctive drowning response is the final set of autonomic reactions in the 20–60 seconds before sinking underwater, and to the untrained eye can look similar to calm safe behavior.[2][3] Lifeguards and other persons trained in rescue learn to recognize drowning people by watching for these movements.[2] If the process is not interrupted, loss of consciousness due to hypoxia is followed rapidly by cardiac arrest. At this stage, the process is still usually reversible by prompt and effective rescue and first aid. Survival rates depend strongly on the duration of immersion.


It is well understood that shallow water drowning almost never shows any water in the lungs whatsoever. The car she drowned in was not even completely submerged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drowning
Poor Sailor
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You poor dumb fuck. You should have learned by now that copying and pasting things you know nothing about (which is everything) always comes back to kick your own ass for you. Read it slowly or have someone read it for you. Fucking idiot.

"If water enters the airways of a conscious person, the person will try to cough up the water or swallow it, often inhaling more water involuntarily. When water enters the larynx or trachea, both conscious and unconscious persons experience laryngospasm, in which the vocal cords constrict, sealing the airway. This prevents water from entering the lungs. Because of this laryngospasm, in the initial phase of drowning, water generally enters the stomach and very little water enters the lungs. Though laryngospasm prevents water from entering the lungs, it also interferes with breathing. In most persons, the laryngospasm relaxes some time after unconsciousness and water can then enter the lungs causing a "wet drowning". However, about 7–10% of people maintain this seal until cardiac arrest.[18] This has been called "dry drowning", as no water enters the lungs. In forensic pathology, water in the lungs indicates that the person was still alive at the point of submersion. Absence of water in the lungs may be either a dry drowning or indicates a death before submersion.[23]"
 
Stretch said:
It's obvious you don't...it's way over your head.
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What is obvious, Stretch...is that I DO get it...and the fact that I am toying with you is way over YOUR head.

But things going over your head is no big thing. Happens all the time.
 
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