This is historic

Darth Omar said:
All of which requires leadership.

Ironically, it was the Trump-hating media which cultivated the caricature of Trump the unstable madman. Maybe the media deserves some credit lol.
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damn right it does. Trump saw the existential threat and refused to kick it down the road.
 
Darth Omar said:
It worked, didn’t it lol?

This isn’t exactly ancient history. Don’t you remember when everyone was saying Trump was going to start WWIII over NK? China did too. It was like ‘holy shit, this guy is liable to really do this’.

Suddenly, China gets serious with sanctions because a military strike that would take out Kim and his government has nothing but Down Side written all over it for China.

All it took was a credible threat of force. Clinton, Bush or Obama could have done the same thing.
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Kim isn't going to denuke until he gets everything else he wants... Maybe 3 years from now.
 
Darth Omar said:
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding lol.

No, Trump was the biggest factor. None of this would have happened without China, and China wouldn’t be in play without Trump.
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You forgot to say "in my humble Trump loving opinion". Without that, you re so incomplete that it is a coverup for the truth.
 
Nordberg said:
Because he knows how well flattery works on Trump. Most world leaders know that give as much credit to Trump as you can, then he will be compliant.
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Exactly. Trump is easily manipulated, though, even then, he's so erratic that you can never be sure of anything. But throw him a big parade, praise him, and he'll give you whatever you want. At least until something else catches his attention.
 
rjhenn said:
Exactly. Trump is easily manipulated, though, even then, he's so erratic that you can never be sure of anything. But throw him a big parade, praise him, and he'll give you whatever you want. At least until something else catches his attention.
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Gad.. Trump could be distracted by jangly keys.
 
noise said:
damn right it does. Trump saw the existential threat and refused to kick it down the road.
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I love you, simple-minded dupes. You're so adorable in your devotion! And when you roll over on your backs and piddle on the floor! Aw, who couldn't love that?!

Kim decided to make nice for two reasons. Both had very little to do with Trump wagging his nuke weiner at Kim's nuke weiner. (I will stipulate though for the record that for once Trump's ICBM rocket WAS bigger than Kim's.)

Reason 1) Kim's nuclear facility was destroyed in a collapse late last year. 2) Kim is far smarter than Trump and realized that making nice with SK/China/The World would gain him bonus points since he basically started at -1257 game pts. Trump, otoh, started at +3,547,891,120 pts. and now is at around +4. Except of course for you simple-minded dupes.
 
>>Reason 1) Kim's nuclear facility was destroyed in a collapse late last year. >>

I suspect that it is the main reason. NK's nuclear weapons ambitions were destroyed. Beyond that, I believe that the credit goes to North and South Korea.
 
it was a hydrogen bomb test site -not part of NK's nuclear weapons -especially miniaturization required for an ICBM
 
noise said:
it was a hydrogen bomb test site -not part of NK's nuclear weapons -especially miniaturization required for an ICBM
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Same thing. A mountain caved in on top of the entire project, including the needed miniaturization.

These discussions are about American exceptionalism. As if foreign nations can't make their own decisions without our approval.
 
Controlled Opposition said:
Same thing. A mountain caved in on top of the entire project, including the needed miniaturization.

These discussions are about American exceptionalism. As if foreign nations can't make their own decisions without our approval.
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no. the mountain was an underground blast site- not a R&D site
 
Thing1 said:
It's funny how you spin things. Trump's just a loon - I'm sure that played some part.

But the biggest factor was a change in SK's leadership. Trump is a fool. It's amazing that you're trying to give him credit for a couple of childish tweets and play it off like "finally we have leadership in the world!"
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Jeez, you never bloody change!! You must be a real party pooper in real life.

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tsuke said:
obama just had to call kim short and fat and stop all appeasement. ez.

year 1 Isis destroyed
year 2 korean war stopped.
year 3 ?????

thats like 2 major foreign policy problems in 2 years. What have the other presidents been doing with their time? o.O
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The Trump Derangement Syndrome is very strong in this thread.

Fox could report that "Trump saves two children from a shark" and the liberal MSM would have headlines that read "Trump takes food from endangered sea life".

:facepalm:
 
rjhenn said:
Exactly. Trump is easily manipulated, though, even then, he's so erratic that you can never be sure of anything. But throw him a big parade, praise him, and he'll give you whatever you want. At least until something else catches his attention.
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Question? "IF" Trump is as easily manipulated as you suggest....why are you not bowing at the feet of Queen Hillary as we speak? Why has he accomplished over 60% of his campaign promises less than 18 months into his first term? Why has he not been manipulated by the black mail attempts of assholes like Comey when he attempted to use the steel dossier to threaten Trump....who got fired and his now facing criminal charges? Why has Mueller's hit squad not found any evidence or turned anyone against Trump after using every trick available to him? Why has Trump not been manipulated into sitting down with Mueller in order to be entrapped into some investigation procedure crime? He keeps the press talking about "PUSSY" while the Trump Train just keeps chugging on down the tracks. He knows and takes advantage of the left's obvious weaknesses....PUSSY and MONEY.

The left has underestimated Trump since he first announced he was running for president....AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. :palm: Blue Wave my ass........Trump has proven himself to be someone that gets the job done....ranging from foreign policy, to producing jobs, to trade imbalances, to tax cuts, AND IT PISSES THE LEFT OFF TO EXTREMES. Reality: Black unemployment has never been so low in the history of this nation, the same for other minorities in this nation.....female unemployment has not been this low in 2 decades, illegal border crossings have been reduced by 50%, Trump got the biggest Tax reduction since Reagan, the GDP continues to grow after being stagnate at 1.7 over the previous 8 years BT (Before Trump)....the list goes on and on.

Does anyone need to wonder why the DNC is going broke because it can't rally its base and had to borrow 2 million dollars in order to get ready for the midterms while the RNC made 39 million from its base of supporters in the 1st quarter alone? ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID. People vote with their wallet. What has the left done for THE PEOPLE lately? Nothing.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.
 
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