Paradox for Conservatives

Dark Soul said:
Ad homs. I win, as usual. LOL
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Not an ad hom. It's an insult, which you whine about hypocritically.

I never claim that the arguments you idiots put forward are wrong because you are idiots. They are wrong for reasons I have stated.

Facts don't care about your feelings.
 
Hi Flash,

Flash said:
We don't know what God wants and if we did it should not determine governmental policy.

Nobody wants children ripped away from their parents and I think something could be arranged differently. However, once the decision was made to prosecute those crossing the border illegally they are sent to federal jail where I don't think we want their children sent. Those people are being processed in mass (1,000 a day in a single court) and pleading guilty in return for time served.

Previously, they were not charged and released and never appeared for their court date adding to the total of illegals. Also, according to administration officials, they are trying to get people to turn themselves in at ports of entry and avoid the illegal crossings.
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All that is going to do is force immigrants to enter illegally instead of seeking asylum.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
Rights come from God not the Government. Immigrants don’t have the same rights as Americans!
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????....who has said immigrants don't have the same rights as Americans?......are you trying to pretend that people who have APPLIED to be immigrants are already immigrants?......
 
PoliTalker said:
Hi Flash,

All that is going to do is force immigrants to enter illegally instead of seeking asylum.
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Maybe. But if caught they take the risk of being prosecuted and sent to federal jail and separated from their children. If they cross at ports of entry they can apply for legal entry and usually be detained with their children and possibly released until their hearing date.

"In Fiscal Year (FY) 2017, USBP apprehended 303,916 individuals along our Southwest Border, compared to 408,870 in FY16, 331,333 in FY15, and 479,371 in FY14. [Source: U. S. Customs and Border Protection].
 
Irthriuth said:
here's another "paradox" for a simpleton such as yourself.

I am a conservative.
I am an atheist.

How do you like dem apples?
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actually it makes me sad.....it might have been cool to hang with you in heaven for a decade or so.......you may still be an idiot but unlike some here you are at least a mellow idiot.....
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello domer76,



I am not banned from this thread. But I am now beginning to wonder why I don't just Ignore and threadban you? All I see you contributing here is flames.

New flash: Some people don't come here to waste their time reading petulance.

Why don't you just stop attacking people and transcend into a thoughtful poster contributing positively to civil discourse? Can we not at least be united in a common desire to improve the human condition and a dedication to work together with mutual respect to brainstorm ideas for consideration?

Or do you think the whole world is nothing but a combination of a popularity contest and an insult-fest.
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Here's the deal, PoliTalker,

I have little to no patience with liars or the willfully ignorant. Both are choices and cretinous and foolish people make. We are all ignorant of certain things, but to remain willfully so is inexcusable.

"New flash: Some people don't come here to waste their time reading petulance." Do they come here to read lies and demonstrations of massive stupidity? I think not.

I'll continue to point out the lies and make corrections when one demonstrates their ignorance on a topic. When they continue to demonstrate that ignorance, they'll get flames.

But you see, pally, this Irthriuth doesn't just ban one or two, does he? He has also gone into my personal settings and made modifications without my permission. I now see a thread that pointed out one of his lies was also stopped. But, I suppose you approve of that.

Popularity contest? From who? A bunch of anonymous internet posters who I will never meet? Surely, you jest.

Mutual respect? The RW racists, liars and willful ignoramuses on this forum have yet to earn ONE IOTA of respect from me or any person who seeks to learn the truth. That will be the day, won't it.

If you feel you must, thread ban me. That merely places you in the same category as the shitstains I continue to reference.
 
Flash said:
The same is true even if you don't recognize a creator but think all humans have some innate human rights--natural rights they were born with into a state of nature (Hobbes?). But I think those rights are irrelevant if they don't live in a society that protects them.
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Humans are no more born with some set of innate rights than a dung beetle.
 
Hello domer76,

domer76 said:
Here's the deal, PoliTalker,

I have little to no patience with liars or the willfully ignorant. Both are choices and cretinous and foolish people make. We are all ignorant of certain things, but to remain willfully so is inexcusable.

"New flash: Some people don't come here to waste their time reading petulance." Do they come here to read lies and demonstrations of massive stupidity? I think not.

I'll continue to point out the lies and make corrections when one demonstrates their ignorance on a topic. When they continue to demonstrate that ignorance, they'll get flames.

But you see, pally, this Irthriuth doesn't just ban one or two, does he? He has also gone into my personal settings and made modifications without my permission. I now see a thread that pointed out one of his lies was also stopped. But, I suppose you approve of that.

Popularity contest? From who? A bunch of anonymous internet posters who I will never meet? Surely, you jest.

Mutual respect? The RW racists, liars and willful ignoramuses on this forum have yet to earn ONE IOTA of respect from me or any person who seeks to learn the truth. That will be the day, won't it.

If you feel you must, thread ban me. That merely places you in the same category as the shitstains I continue to reference.
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How would such polarization help our country?

Divided we stand?
 
domer76 said:
Here's the deal, PoliTalker,

I have little to no patience with liars or the willfully ignorant. Both are choices and cretinous and foolish people make. We are all ignorant of certain things, but to remain willfully so is inexcusable.

"New flash: Some people don't come here to waste their time reading petulance." Do they come here to read lies and demonstrations of massive stupidity? I think not.

I'll continue to point out the lies and make corrections when one demonstrates their ignorance on a topic. When they continue to demonstrate that ignorance, they'll get flames.

But you see, pally, this Irthriuth doesn't just ban one or two, does he? He has also gone into my personal settings and made modifications without my permission. I now see a thread that pointed out one of his lies was also stopped. But, I suppose you approve of that.

Popularity contest? From who? A bunch of anonymous internet posters who I will never meet? Surely, you jest.

Mutual respect? The RW racists, liars and willful ignoramuses on this forum have yet to earn ONE IOTA of respect from me or any person who seeks to learn the truth. That will be the day, won't it.

If you feel you must, thread ban me. That merely places you in the same category as the shitstains I continue to reference.[/QUOTE]

You win the internet today.
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Hello Flash,

Flash said:
The same is true even if you don't recognize a creator but think all humans have some innate human rights--natural rights they were born with into a state of nature (Hobbes?). But I think those rights are irrelevant if they don't live in a society that protects them.
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There is no paradox in wanting to treat all equally. It has nothing to do with belief in creation theory.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,

There is no paradox in wanting to treat all equally. It has nothing to do with belief in creation theory.
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Agreed, but a person can believe in natural rights without believing in a creator. I'm not sure what you mean by treating everyone equally. In the context of our conversation should non-citizens have the right to vote? Should illegals receive government benefits?
 
Hello TTQ64,

TTQ64 said:
(to Domer) You win the internet today.
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-Laughing-

I know, right?

As if there is some score keeping going on.

I just come here to discuss and learn. Maybe toss around an idea or three.

All of this shallow petulant stuff is just so sandbox.
 
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