Black prof Michael Eric Dyson DEMANDS more affirmative action for blacks
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You should know, whitey.
cawacko
Well-known member
We all know the history of discrimination in this country. We know why HBCU's were created, because black kids couldn't get into white colleges. We know why AA was created. The question today in 2018 is does AA benefit black and Hispanic kids now? I don't think that gets discussed because the idea of AA is such a powerful one.
AA essentially says one who doesn't meet the necessary requirements to obtain admittance into a high school or University based on grades and test scores should be allowed in based on race due to past discrimination.
A couple of questions pop into my mind. If a kid (any kid) is put into an academic environment where their scores say they shouldn't belong are we doing them a disservice? I don't think that's an all or nothing question. Some kids perform better in college than their high school tests or grades would show. But on the whole do we have studies or research that has looked into it? If we put a kid (any kid) in a tougher environment because they got into a better school through AA and then flunk out have we done them a disservice instead of that kid going where they fit in better academically. Because the thing with AA is it's not like someone won't go to college without it. It's about what level of school will they go to.
The alternative method we hear discussed is advantages for kids who grow up in poor socio-economic households and that covers people of all races. Of course we probably all know people who grew up with little economically but had a lot of love and support at home and there are those who grow up with extremely wealthy parents who received little attention or support at home. Not everyone's situation is the same. But as we see more black and Hispanic children growing up in middle class households the need for traditional AA is less than it was 60 years ago (which is a good thing).
AA essentially says one who doesn't meet the necessary requirements to obtain admittance into a high school or University based on grades and test scores should be allowed in based on race due to past discrimination.
A couple of questions pop into my mind. If a kid (any kid) is put into an academic environment where their scores say they shouldn't belong are we doing them a disservice? I don't think that's an all or nothing question. Some kids perform better in college than their high school tests or grades would show. But on the whole do we have studies or research that has looked into it? If we put a kid (any kid) in a tougher environment because they got into a better school through AA and then flunk out have we done them a disservice instead of that kid going where they fit in better academically. Because the thing with AA is it's not like someone won't go to college without it. It's about what level of school will they go to.
The alternative method we hear discussed is advantages for kids who grow up in poor socio-economic households and that covers people of all races. Of course we probably all know people who grew up with little economically but had a lot of love and support at home and there are those who grow up with extremely wealthy parents who received little attention or support at home. Not everyone's situation is the same. But as we see more black and Hispanic children growing up in middle class households the need for traditional AA is less than it was 60 years ago (which is a good thing).
No need to get angry about the truth. There is a segment of the black population that thinks blacks are too stupid to get ahead or get an education on their own. You being one of them. WTF is wrong with you? A black person needs only themselves to get ahead in this country. Untold amounts do. The rest of them need the shackles of ignorance and reliance from people like you taken off.
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Hey asshole, there's a guy on this thread that literally just said whites and asians are mentally superior to blacks and there hasn't been a word about it from you. You know what I think? I think you're the racist, and I think you and people like you are trying to water down that word and shift focus away from actual prejudiced people (your buddies) onto people who have done or said nothing at all meriting that label.
Most like you that can't make it on your own do.
Apparently many blacks need affirmative action to do what they can't do for themselves.
YOU think Blacks are too stupid to get ahead.
WE HAVE AA BECAUSE THE RACIST WHITE MAN DIDN'T AND DON'T WANT BLACKS EDUCATED.
THAT IS AN UNDENIABLE TRUTH NONE OF YOU RACIST FUCKS CAN DENY.
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
Wow. Still here calling every single person on the thread a racist, except for the one actual flaming racist. Further proving my point.
Wow, let's see........where have I heard this before? Oh yea, the racist right.
For the record. I don't address that piece of shit, but at least he's honest and says what he feels.
I address cowards, those who pretend to not be racist, but support the racist shit that comes from people like him.
If it walks like a duck.............
TrippyHippy
free mind and open heart
I don't consider any person who tries to claim science proves whites and asians are mentally superior to blacks to be an honest person. I love how you're trying to justify the fact you are throwing insults at everyone on this thread except the one, true racist. He's the one you should be after.
You don't address him because you don't care. You want to distract from true prejudice by throwing around a word that's supposed to have a certain stigma and significance to it around like it's nothing.
As I said before which you chose to ignore. White women benefit more from AA than any other race.
Let's start there.
AA policies have outlived its need -- systemic racism is over and thanks to MLK, it is no longer socially acceptable to be overtly racist.
Now it may take time for blacks to deserve to be in Ivy league schools without people thinking that AA got them in -- but in 50 years or so, blacks can finally be thought of as having adequate mental capacity instead of being thought of as inferior
Now it may take time for blacks to deserve to be in Ivy league schools without people thinking that AA got them in -- but in 50 years or so, blacks can finally be thought of as having adequate mental capacity instead of being thought of as inferior
When you support and repeat lies from the racist right......I call you a racist. You, everyone on this thread including CFM share the same view on AA.
Everyone on this thread has no fucking clue about AA. You spews some ignorant shit about Blacks when it's YOU all that is the problem.
Not one of you assholes have address that fact that WHITE WOMEN benefit the most from AA.
Why even take you seriously.
cawacko
Well-known member
Are you making an argument for why we shouldn't have AA? Women totally outnumber men in Universities today so why should women get any additional advantages?
As I've said before, white doesn't have a damn thing to do with why they benefited.
Now we're finished with that.
I prefer to address his implication that white had anything to do with why they benefited.
While your being funny.....
Just read a story today where the first Black Valedictorian of a school wasn't allowed to speak at the graduation.
Only racist white men think racism is over.
You don't know? You just made a long ass post about Black and Mexicans and AA.
How can you know about AA and not know why so many white women benefit?
How about I give you a few days to research then get back with me.